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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2020 21:16:33 GMT -8
You rare then. Ive mostly been in sales and all I got eas what have you sold fpr me lately.
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Post by 13rock on May 27, 2020 21:28:24 GMT -8
I sent them updates of the car accidents down the street. They seemed to kinda get a kick out of it and replied "Why does the exciting stuff happen when we are not there!"
That's only informing them of gossip- make a genuine attempt to connect with these guys & ask how they are, how their family is, what their concerns are about returning to work etc
It's the hardest part of owning any business (particularly a small one) but it will pay off dividends in the long run.
Listen to what they say & don't minimise their thoughts/feelings it will only become toxic and ruin the relationship
What is bad is the driver who wants to work threw a tantrum when I informed him that I felt for his own health he should not be delivering. He does not recognize that I was trying to help him by avoiding being in contact with many more people. And knowing that his partner had been taking hair appointments it would also have been irresponsible if I allowed him to be out delivering.
I told him we could use his help in the shop and I would train him and he threw the fit. He refuses to use GPS/navigation to assist him delivering, refused to take a photo if nobody responded at the residence and had to leave the arrangement at the door. One of the seasonal drivers showed him an app that would route the addresses input and he was irritated by her offering the help.
At times I load the vehicle for him to help him get on the road quicker and sometimes take the wrong items out because he likes to chat a lot.
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Post by 13rock on May 27, 2020 21:33:10 GMT -8
The business does not make much money and my job that actually pays me probably won't exist this Fall/Winter. Because I'm seasonal and a freelancer I'm not sure if I would qualify for unemployment due to High School Football being cancelled or postponed. Another colleague in the TV production industry is concerned many of the jobs will disappear due to networks choosing to reduce personnel. She is also concerned that many of the gigs will be quickly taken by people who have been in the industry the longest.
I think that is a high chance unfortunatly mate, anything you can pivot towards that would help if you got started on now?
IE: You obviously have experience with TV production & small business. Why not make a show about your Mum's florist shop and see if you can pitch it to any local stations.
I need to work on social media for the business but it's very difficult because you have to have the time to commit to it and also post things at the "right" times of the day. |
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Post by footy on May 27, 2020 21:33:46 GMT -8
Okay so your PPD scheme is very similar to one they have here in Australia.
Under the Australian law anyway, the employer can redeploy their employee into other areas of the business (ie: painting a wall or social media etc) provided it is safe and within their competency's to do so. If that is not something you can offer, I again stress, you need to show your employees that you are making their workplace safe for which they can work in. The best way is to communicate to them the hygienic measures you have implemented to minimize their risk of contracting covid
One has asthma and older parents with potential heath concerns and she was concerned about her parents. Almost the same can be said about the other, she had bad allergies and her mother is also older with potential health concerns. Due to those reasons I believe they need the state and county to declare it is alright for places to fully open.
Entry to the business is only being allowed to those who have called or placed an order beforehand.
Alright that's a good start- you know their reasons for being hesitant to come back to work (high risk parents), you've implemented a measure to screen visitors to your shop.
Is there anything else that would make your employees comfortable? (Ie: Temperature checks on customers when the walk in, undertake a non-customer facing role etc)
I wouldn't be reporting them for not working, it will only cause you greater issues down the track (increased risk of theft, decline in quality etc)
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Post by footy on May 27, 2020 21:34:40 GMT -8
I think that is a high chance unfortunatly mate, anything you can pivot towards that would help if you got started on now?
IE: You obviously have experience with TV production & small business. Why not make a show about your Mum's florist shop and see if you can pitch it to any local stations.
I need to work on social media for the business but it's very difficult because you have to have the time to commit to it and also post things at the "right" times of the day.
Yeah I know it's what my wife does for one of the big charities here- it's so hard!
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Post by 13rock on May 27, 2020 21:37:22 GMT -8
One has asthma and older parents with potential heath concerns and she was concerned about her parents. Almost the same can be said about the other, she had bad allergies and her mother is also older with potential health concerns. Due to those reasons I believe they need the state and county to declare it is alright for places to fully open.
Entry to the business is only being allowed to those who have called or placed an order beforehand.
Alright that's a good start- you know their reasons for being hesitant to come back to work (high risk parents), you've implemented a measure to screen visitors to your shop.
Is there anything else that would make your employees comfortable? (Ie: Temperature checks on customers when the walk in, undertake a non-customer facing role etc)
I wouldn't be reporting them for not working, it will only cause you greater issues down the track (increased risk of theft, decline in quality etc)
What do I report back to the bank that issued the PPP loan? About 93% of it is still in the account and we have not paid any employees with it.
Although our CPA did say I should actually get checks from this funding because I am on payroll and I would then use the money for expenses.
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Post by 13rock on May 27, 2020 21:45:24 GMT -8
This is the same loan program that the Los Angeles Lakers got $4.6 million from and quickly returned when it was leaned how quickly the funds ran out.
What do I report back to the bank?
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Post by 13rock on May 27, 2020 21:51:41 GMT -8
no. don't fuck these people over because they refused to risk their health during a pandemic. unemployment partly functions right now to encourage people to stay at home. your business isn't so important that they should risk their health to work, and fuck you if you report them for declining work right now. Then this means the PPP program was really dumb... |
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Post by 13rock on May 27, 2020 21:54:17 GMT -8
Well maybe not really dumb... Just more adjustments need to be made
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Post by 13rock on May 27, 2020 21:55:23 GMT -8
I need to work on social media for the business but it's very difficult because you have to have the time to commit to it and also post things at the "right" times of the day.
Yeah I know it's what my wife does for one of the big charities here- it's so hard!
what are the peak hours for posting updates? |
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Post by footy on May 27, 2020 21:56:00 GMT -8
Alright that's a good start- you know their reasons for being hesitant to come back to work (high risk parents), you've implemented a measure to screen visitors to your shop.
Is there anything else that would make your employees comfortable? (Ie: Temperature checks on customers when the walk in, undertake a non-customer facing role etc)
I wouldn't be reporting them for not working, it will only cause you greater issues down the track (increased risk of theft, decline in quality etc)
What do I report back to the bank that issued the PPP loan? About 93% of it is still in the account and we have not paid any employees with it.
Although our CPA did say I should actually get checks from this funding because I am on payroll and I would then use the money for expenses.
Not sure I can help you with that one mate- I'm not familiar with the legislation around the US PPD. (IE: Are there any guarantees that you need to keep your employees job open for their return, revenue thresholds etc)
Common sense tells me that you should utilize the funding for your own paychecks and return whatever you won't be paying to your employees if they are not working.
It may be worth mentioning to your staff when you check in on them that the business cannot survive without their help and if you don't come back to work soon there may not be a business left to employ them.
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Post by footy on May 27, 2020 21:58:21 GMT -8
Yeah I know it's what my wife does for one of the big charities here- it's so hard!
what are the peak hours for posting updates?
I'm in Australia mate- the peak times are Tuesday's 11am (fuck knows why) and 4:30pm weekdays
However, it also depends on your business. You are florist, people who are searching for a florist are looking for freshly cut flowers to be delivered/picked up that day so your most effective time to post would be 8am-9am in the morning I would think.
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Post by 13rock on May 27, 2020 22:18:47 GMT -8
footy what are the peak hours for posting updates?
I'm in Australia mate- the peak times are Tuesday's 11am (fuck knows why) and 4:30pm weekdays
However, it also depends on your business. You are florist, people who are searching for a florist are looking for freshly cut flowers to be delivered/picked up that day so your most effective time to post would be 8am-9am in the morning I would think.
Appreciate the input, I'm about to drive home now so will be away for about an hour. It's 11:20 PM now lol |
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Post by Von on May 28, 2020 21:03:49 GMT -8
This is the situation I am in; Our employees filed for unemployment when the stay at home order(s) were made by the state.
I asked them if they would work for Mother's Day which was when some businesses were allowed to be open. I advised them we would only allow pre-ordered pick-ups or orders for delivery. One even asked if she could work isolated because her mother is older and has several health concerns.
They all declined and also declined cash payment for those days because they are collecting unemployment. Currently they are receiving a good amount more from unemployment than working. Would you return to work if your employer reported back that you declined work?
When would you feel safe enough to return to work if you declined?
Isn’t unemployment an X percentage of your wages so this doesn’t happen? Are tips reported as income? |
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