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Post by kobe on Jul 13, 2021 13:10:59 GMT -8
Jonathan Kuminga SF 68 35.8 25.1 8.4 2.6 1.7 1.3 2.0 .471 .787 .385
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Post by kobe on Jul 13, 2021 13:11:10 GMT -8
vic and jon update
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Post by Lasagna and tears of failure on Jul 13, 2021 13:12:46 GMT -8
hopefully we sim to end tn. |
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Post by Lumley316 on Jul 13, 2021 16:12:11 GMT -8
Not down the line in babes time. They eventually put up nets down the line in some parks There's literally books on Babe Ruth home run distance estimates. I know ai did his bios and comparisions |
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Post by Lumley316 on Jul 13, 2021 16:12:55 GMT -8
if i dont reset this year i quit Oh so you never offically in your cy nice |
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Post by ashes on Jul 13, 2021 16:16:34 GMT -8
There's literally books on Babe Ruth home run distance estimates. I know ai did his bios and comparisions The majority were estimated over 400 ft |
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Post by ashes on Jul 13, 2021 16:24:15 GMT -8
"But, by my count, only 23 of his 714 home runs traveled less than 330 feet. The average length of his 714 career home runs was 416 feet. In his greatest year, 1921, it was 434 feet. His 713th career home run went 500 feet. #714 went 540 feet."
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Post by the original michael on Jul 13, 2021 16:25:20 GMT -8
"But, by my count, only 23 of his 714 home runs traveled less than 330 feet. The average length of his 714 career home runs was 416 feet. In his greatest year, 1921, it was 434 feet. His 713th career home run went 500 feet. #714 went 540 feet." 540!!!! Holy shit |
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Post by JR on Jul 13, 2021 16:27:51 GMT -8
Did they track distance back then?
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Post by Lasagna and tears of failure on Jul 13, 2021 16:28:47 GMT -8
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Post by ashes on Jul 13, 2021 16:31:35 GMT -8
Did they track distance back then? Apparently newspapers charted them at least. So I guess that plus computers and science made it possible to figure it out. |
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Post by Lumley316 on Jul 13, 2021 16:49:53 GMT -8
Did they track distance back then? Apparently newspapers charted them at least. So I guess that plus computers and science made it possible to figure it out. They started to calculate actual distances werent correct because of angles and such like boston was listed very short but was actually like 380 down the line. Places like polo grounds down rhe lines were 250 range where players like babe dominated. Later on walls were put up and nets to increase distances. Looks like to make it harder for guys like ruth. Also funny thing is jimmie fox actually hit 60 homeruns the year its listed 58. 2 games he hit 2 homeruns in were considered rain outs since they didnt meet min innings requirement. My concern with babe is his practice habits. It is kinda bad they all portray him as being overly out of shape but most pix i see of him is he is in good shape maybe baggy uniform but alot smaller then they always have him in movies and such. Look up Walter Johnson against Ruth. Seems as sp ruth did better overall. Hitting Ruth hit average against Walter. They tried to gauge Johnson top fastball from old clips. Looks like anywhere from 88 to 98mph. Lol wonder if ruth would have taken steriods and look like Bonds uf he played around our era lol |
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Post by Lumley316 on Jul 13, 2021 16:52:01 GMT -8
I know ai did his bios and comparisions The majority were estimated over 400 ft Well we can say he maximized what he had for his time. Got to figure in injuries back then too. Guys kept playing ans did have the medical care they have now |
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Post by ashes on Jul 13, 2021 16:56:59 GMT -8
The majority were estimated over 400 ft Well we can say he maximized what he had for his time. Got to figure in injuries back then too. Guys kept playing ans did have the medical care they have now I dunno what you mean lums, you said his average home run was very short, but his average distance was 416. Current majors average is like 400. Seems pretty good to me. |
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Post by Lumley316 on Jul 13, 2021 17:04:29 GMT -8
Well we can say he maximized what he had for his time. Got to figure in injuries back then too. Guys kept playing ans did have the medical care they have now I dunno what you mean lums, you said his average home run was very short, but his average distance was 416. Current majors average is like 400. Seems pretty good to me. Im talking about comparing him to these days. With better living conditions. He hit a ton of homeruns down short lines and off very slow tired pitching. Most teams only had handful of pitchers who got little to no breaks lol. |
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Post by Lasagna and tears of failure on Jul 13, 2021 17:05:12 GMT -8
Well we can say he maximized what he had for his time. Got to figure in injuries back then too. Guys kept playing ans did have the medical care they have now I dunno what you mean lums, you said his average home run was very short, but his average distance was 416. Current majors average is like 400. Seems pretty good to me. I think he is saying that about 50 of his HRs would have been doubles now a day while still slaughtering the ball deep a lot |
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Post by ashes on Jul 13, 2021 17:06:36 GMT -8
I dunno what you mean lums, you said his average home run was very short, but his average distance was 416. Current majors average is like 400. Seems pretty good to me. Im talking about comparing him to these days. With better living conditions. He hit a ton of homeruns down short lines and off very slow tired pitching. Most teams only had handful of pitchers who got little to no breaks lol. No he hit 23 less 330 ft. |
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Post by Lumley316 on Jul 13, 2021 17:10:46 GMT -8
Im talking about comparing him to these days. With better living conditions. He hit a ton of homeruns down short lines and off very slow tired pitching. Most teams only had handful of pitchers who got little to no breaks lol. No he hit 23 less 330 ft. Nice. There is a book called 104 claiming that Ruth hit another 100 or so hrs for his career if they didnt change up park dimensions. Basically as the years went by it got harder and harder. Saying one year he would have hit 104 with same rules they have at time of book he wrote and so on for like 4 years at least. |
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Post by ashes on Jul 13, 2021 17:11:54 GMT -8
I dunno what you mean lums, you said his average home run was very short, but his average distance was 416. Current majors average is like 400. Seems pretty good to me. I think he is saying that about 50 of his HRs would have been doubles now a day while still slaughtering the ball deep a lot Nah he said his average was very short, which was just wrong. Now he's saying random other things about tired pitching etc etc which is why my first post in response to all the discussion was "lol at saying what a guy in the 1920s would do now" It's a silly thing to try factor in 100 years difference. Pitchers threw slower, pitched more games, spit on balls, blah blah. Yes. All I responded to was him saying his average was very short, which it wasn't. |
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Post by Lumley316 on Jul 13, 2021 17:13:04 GMT -8
Then same as you mentioning him. There is a ton of factors. Some parks had basically no walls lol
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Post by ashes on Jul 13, 2021 17:13:42 GMT -8
No he hit 23 less 330 ft. Nice. There is a book called 104 claiming that Ruth hit another 100 or so hrs for his career if they didnt change up park dimensions. Basically as the years went by it got harder and harder. Saying one year he would have hit 104 with same rules they have at time of book he wrote and so on for like 4 years at least. Yes that is where this information is from. His last HR was over 500 ft. Imagine hitting less homeruns as you get older. |
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Post by ashes on Jul 13, 2021 17:14:45 GMT -8
Then same as you mentioning him. There is a ton of factors. Some parks had basically no walls lol what
No walls affects distance traveled how?
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Post by ashes on Jul 13, 2021 17:16:41 GMT -8
Walls, higher fences, whatever would affect # of HRs hit, which is another factor discussed, IE more HRs would be hit with lower fences.
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Post by Lasagna and tears of failure on Jul 13, 2021 17:17:01 GMT -8
Then same as you mentioning him. There is a ton of factors. Some parks had basically no walls lol what
No walls affects distance traveled how?
balls dont bounce back off of no walls |
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Post by Lumley316 on Jul 13, 2021 17:17:22 GMT -8
About 6″.
Babe Ruth once hit a hr in a game in which it was raining so badly that you could barely see the ball. It came down at the front of the plate, but no one had seen it.
When it was found, the plate umpire said “Home Run".
Per SABRE's book CLOUT!
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Post by Lasagna and tears of failure on Jul 13, 2021 17:17:28 GMT -8
well unless they have some kinda crazy backwards spin
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Post by Lumley316 on Jul 13, 2021 17:18:04 GMT -8
what
No walls affects distance traveled how?
balls dont bounce back off of no walls Yep can keep rolling lol |
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Post by Lasagna and tears of failure on Jul 13, 2021 17:20:23 GMT -8
oh well, enough of harassing ashes, good night all
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Post by Andrew on Jul 13, 2021 17:20:36 GMT -8
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Post by Lumley316 on Jul 13, 2021 17:21:23 GMT -8
well unless they have some kinda crazy backwards spin Be interesting to compare balls of that time to today. More then likely they tighter now. 56 ounce bat is huge |
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