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Post by Von on Oct 26, 2021 5:59:39 GMT -8
Not sure why a late 20's would be the 2nd overall pick especially for a rebuilding team. Don't believe that was the argument anyone made. Reading comprehension is hard. |
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Post by Braz on Oct 26, 2021 5:59:52 GMT -8
Not sure why a late 20's would be the 2nd overall pick especially for a rebuilding team. i think the strategy has to be to take the most skilled player regardless of age. |
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Post by Von on Oct 26, 2021 6:00:11 GMT -8
Not sure how Dan's comment equates to a bust. He just said he is old.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2021 6:00:53 GMT -8
I guess the implication was that you didn't like him and you'd rather not have him I guess the implication was that you didn't like him and you'd rather not have him I am not wild about how we have hiked the ages of the average guy by 4 or 5 years. It dilutes the value of these drafts when we have guys coming into the league at the same age as some players on the end of their first max. The difference between a 19 and 27 year old rookie is their value after their rookie contracts. 23 year old players tend to carry a lot more value than 31 year olds. If I am trying to build a strong team of veterans it is quite hard to pawn off guys who are in the 28 - 30 year old range as a rebuilding package. I am not wild about how we have hiked the ages of the average guy by 4 or 5 years. It dilutes the value of these drafts when we have guys coming into the league at the same age as some players on the end of their first max. The difference between a 19 and 27 year old rookie is their value after their rookie contracts. 23 year old players tend to carry a lot more value than 31 year olds. If I am trying to build a strong team of veterans it is quite hard to pawn off guys who are in the 28 - 30 year old range as a rebuilding package. Then don't trade Cunningham for an old prospect. I'm not seeing the issue. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2021 6:01:06 GMT -8
bored, lets trade a top 10 player for a bad draft!
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Post by Orlando Magic Johnson on Oct 26, 2021 6:01:15 GMT -8
Not sure why a late 20's would be the 2nd overall pick especially for a rebuilding team. Don't believe that was the argument anyone made. i didn't make it! |
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Post by Spencer on Oct 26, 2021 6:01:47 GMT -8
Not sure why a late 20's would be the 2nd overall pick especially for a rebuilding team. I think its about value. If you wanna trade Wanzer right now for more picks or a younger player the value is there. |
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Post by Orlando Magic Johnson on Oct 26, 2021 6:01:50 GMT -8
Not sure why a late 20's would be the 2nd overall pick especially for a rebuilding team. i think the strategy has to be to take the most skilled player regardless of age. please mate |
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Post by Von on Oct 26, 2021 6:02:01 GMT -8
Chris you keep quoting things irrelevant to your original comment of a bust. Stop.
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Post by Zeke on Oct 26, 2021 6:02:07 GMT -8
Gooms >
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2021 6:02:26 GMT -8
no one wants a 27 year old bust
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2021 6:02:40 GMT -8
Ayton traded. More volume and development for Mblocka incoming.
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Post by Von on Oct 26, 2021 6:03:36 GMT -8
Not sure why a late 20's would be the 2nd overall pick especially for a rebuilding team. I think its about value. If you wanna trade Wanzer right now for more picks or a younger player the value is there. Some GM's have already tried lowballing based off of the age. Tricky situation here. I think I am just going to let him shoot 100 times a night and see what the hell happens. |
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Post by Orlando Magic Johnson on Oct 26, 2021 6:03:43 GMT -8
Not sure why a late 20's would be the 2nd overall pick especially for a rebuilding team. I think its about value. If you wanna trade Wanzer right now for more picks or a younger player the value is there. to who tho. Who is going to give you that value right now. It's kinda like you're changing the entire game out from under rebuilding teams the past year or two and that will fuck the entire process up. Do as you wish but I find it hard to believe you will be able to get proper value for that guy if you deal him right now. Not many teams can make that deal or want to make that deal. |
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Post by Zeke on Oct 26, 2021 6:04:51 GMT -8
Then try to win !
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Post by Zeke on Oct 26, 2021 6:05:36 GMT -8
Last draft was equivalent to 2000 draft tho
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Post by autumn harold on Oct 26, 2021 6:06:01 GMT -8
the #2 pick is supposed to be a best case scenario when you're going for youth/picks, not something you flip for youth/picks.
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Post by Orlando Magic Johnson on Oct 26, 2021 6:06:16 GMT -8
Luckily he is on Pigs roster and he can just compete with him. I'd be pissed if he was my first pick when I was trying to tank for two more years.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2021 6:07:12 GMT -8
Harrison Mix SG 14 32.9 24.7 5.6 2.6 1.4 0.4 1.9 .457 .821 .418
No Wagner, no Simmons, no Ayton stealing shots.
Should be an exciting year for Mix.
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Post by Braz on Oct 26, 2021 6:09:37 GMT -8
Luckily he is on Pigs roster and he can just compete with him. I'd be pissed if he was my first pick when I was trying to tank for two more years. being mad bc the guy you drafted is really good. odd |
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Post by Orlando Magic Johnson on Oct 26, 2021 6:13:59 GMT -8
Luckily he is on Pigs roster and he can just compete with him. I'd be pissed if he was my first pick when I was trying to tank for two more years. being mad bc the guy you drafted is really good. odd Having some guy ruin your tank because he is putting up 30 PPG, sure. No one will properly give you the right value/youth. No one in the league is making that trade right now. |
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Post by Braz on Oct 26, 2021 6:15:18 GMT -8
a tale of two big men
C 17 34.5 13.6 10.9 1.5 0.8 3.0 1.4 .444 .888 .091
C 17 32.1 12.5 11.0 1.9 0.2 2.8 1.4 .429 .913 .000
A or B?
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Post by Andrew on Oct 26, 2021 6:15:41 GMT -8
my #2 picks have all shit the bed!
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Post by Andrew on Oct 26, 2021 6:16:17 GMT -8
consummate bed shitters
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Post by Braz on Oct 26, 2021 6:16:26 GMT -8
being mad bc the guy you drafted is really good. odd Having some guy ruin your tank because he is putting up 30 PPG, sure. No one will properly give you the right value/youth. No one in the league is making that trade right now. `but if the point of rebuilding is to draft/acquire good players. you can be happy to have a very good player making under 3 million and continue to build. id much rather have a stud rookie then a guy im going to be afraid to max in 4 yrs |
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Post by Zeke on Oct 26, 2021 6:18:53 GMT -8
If Gooms keeps up the 1.6 topg pace with elite stocks o boy
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Post by Zeke on Oct 26, 2021 6:20:40 GMT -8
Your boy dick furey kinda let me down Spencer but its his first tc post camp so idk |
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Post by Spencer on Oct 26, 2021 6:21:03 GMT -8
I think its about value. If you wanna trade Wanzer right now for more picks or a younger player the value is there. to who tho. Who is going to give you that value right now. It's kinda like you're changing the entire game out from under rebuilding teams the past year or two and that will fuck the entire process up. Do as you wish but I find it hard to believe you will be able to get proper value for that guy if you deal him right now. Not many teams can make that deal or want to make that deal. To me this is like having success with a low salary QB in the NFL. Having an elite type PG at around 3 million a year gives you a 4 year window to go for it. |
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Post by Spencer on Oct 26, 2021 6:21:37 GMT -8
Ask Eddy if hes rather have Hannum or Wanzer now.
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Post by Spencer on Oct 26, 2021 6:21:55 GMT -8
Manas needs a PG. He has elite youth and tons of picks.
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