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Post by nybombers3 on Sept 1, 2022 14:56:31 GMT -8
I mean obviously I would've wanted DM. Let's be honest though. Knicks move 25, 27 and 29 unprotected plus 26 and 28 pick swaps and all we'd hear is: "Knicks lol. That tiny backcourt won't work" or "Knicks moving all those picks for a player that won't help". Lowkey the Cavs backcourt is pretty small too but they have the frontcourt D that should help hide a lot of that. Knicks have Mitch Rob who isn't a great defender and Randle who can't defend Play . Mitchell is a great name and would get more eyes in NY but a trio of Randle, DM and Brunson isn't going anywhere. Cavs have a much better roster yeah but still, Knicks passed on a young star who wanted to be there Fair and that does sting. It's tough though because the Knicks roster needs severe fixing. DM doesn't fix the roster, just adds a bigger name to it. Does that help the way the franchise is viewed? idk. Assuming the deal would've been: RJ, IQ, Fournier, 3 unprotected, 2 swaps and 2 2nd's. I don't see that line up of Mitch/Randle/Grimes/DM/Brunson doing much damage. Then again, Knicks are still kind of stuck in no mans land. Eh.
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Post by Braz on Sept 1, 2022 14:58:41 GMT -8
I was in the camp of not wanting RJ in any deal
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Post by 2 years left on Sept 1, 2022 15:00:30 GMT -8
Cavs have a much better roster yeah but still, Knicks passed on a young star who wanted to be there Fair and that does sting. It's tough though because the Knicks roster needs severe fixing. DM doesn't fix the roster, just adds a bigger name to it. Does that help the way the franchise is viewed? idk. Assuming the deal would've been: RJ, IQ, Fournier, 3 unprotected, 2 swaps and 2 2nd's. I don't see that line up of Mitch/Randle/Grimes/DM/Brunson doing much damage. Then again, Knicks are still kind of stuck in no mans land. Eh. yeah if they aren’t willing to pay for stars they need to tank, no direction is the worst
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Post by Play on Sept 1, 2022 15:16:47 GMT -8
I mean obviously I would've wanted DM. Let's be honest though. Knicks move 25, 27 and 29 unprotected plus 26 and 28 pick swaps and all we'd hear is: "Knicks lol. That tiny backcourt won't work" or "Knicks moving all those picks for a player that won't help". Lowkey the Cavs backcourt is pretty small too but they have the frontcourt D that should help hide a lot of that. Knicks have Mitch Rob who isn't a great defender and Randle who can't defend Play . Mitchell is a great name and would get more eyes in NY but a trio of Randle, DM and Brunson isn't going anywhere. Cavs have a much better roster yeah but still, Knicks passed on a young star who wanted to be there the only thing that matters. Stars don't want to go to NY and they finally had one that wanted to be there.
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Post by the original michael on Sept 1, 2022 15:28:58 GMT -8
Right now they are a treadmill team with no direction… at least they have some youth and a boatload of picks. The move now would be to trade Fournier, Rose and Randle and showcase the youth with an actual guard in Brunson and see what these kids have. If they suck, who cares? We have our pick. If they are good, great. We can use assets to improve the roster around them.
I just never saw the point in trading RJ in a Mitchell deal, especially at the cost of 3 UP1sts and Grimes. We weren’t one piece away. Aren’t two pieces away. Mitchell doesn’t move the needle that much imo.
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Post by Braz on Sept 1, 2022 15:31:29 GMT -8
Play in was the worst thing for us. We can middle and sell the squad as a playoff team
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Post by the original michael on Sept 1, 2022 15:33:34 GMT -8
It’ll be so frustrating if they valued Grimes and Obi like that and then neither of them get 30+ minutes a game this season. You need to showcase these guys if you value them enough to hold up a deal like this. Especially Grimes, who was not included in any DM offers.
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Post by the original michael on Sept 1, 2022 15:34:05 GMT -8
Play in was the worst thing for us. We can middle and sell the squad as a playoff team set us back another 2-3 years, yah
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Post by Braz on Sept 1, 2022 15:36:09 GMT -8
It’ll be so frustrating if they valued Grimes and Obi like that and then neither of them get 30+ minutes a game this season. You need to showcase these guys if you value them enough to hold up a deal like this. Especially Grimes, who was not included in any DM offers. just yank let Randle play Pg
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Post by the original michael on Sept 1, 2022 15:36:59 GMT -8
It’ll be so frustrating if they valued Grimes and Obi like that and then neither of them get 30+ minutes a game this season. You need to showcase these guys if you value them enough to hold up a deal like this. Especially Grimes, who was not included in any DM offers. just yank let Randle play Pg That doesn’t help develop the kids tho!!!
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Post by the original michael on Sept 1, 2022 15:37:38 GMT -8
Maybe the Lakers will bite on Fournier, Randle, Cam for RW. Waive him.
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Post by ashes on Sept 1, 2022 16:01:30 GMT -8
Play in is just zzzzz in general
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Post by Stevie B on Sept 1, 2022 16:08:46 GMT -8
Play in is just zzzzz in general
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