Post by Orlando Magic Johnson on Jun 26, 2023 14:05:20 GMT -8
1. Utah Jazz - Bill Laimbeer
PRE TC: Bill Laimbeer C 6'11'' 245 22 B- C C B+ A- A
POST TC: Bill Laimbeer C 22 6'11'' 245 B C C+ B+ B+ A
Billy boy took a hit there but also went up with Handles. Inside went up. Not bad, not great. Kept his A potential. Which tells me he has good potential and this was one of those first weird TCs. He should be alright. Will be interesting to see how all these big men sim and if they have decent stocks or any at all.
PRE TC: Bill Laimbeer C 6'11'' 245 22 B- C C B+ A- A
POST TC: Bill Laimbeer C 22 6'11'' 245 B C C+ B+ B+ A
Billy boy took a hit there but also went up with Handles. Inside went up. Not bad, not great. Kept his A potential. Which tells me he has good potential and this was one of those first weird TCs. He should be alright. Will be interesting to see how all these big men sim and if they have decent stocks or any at all.
2. Denver Nuggets - Sidney Moncrief
PRE TC: Sidney Moncrief SG 22 6'4'' 180 B- B- B- B+ C A
POST TC: Sidney Moncrief SG 22 6'4'' 180 B- B+ B B+ C+ A
Probably should have been the number 1 pick. +4 out of the gates, holding his A potential. He looks very good. Big time scorer and a nice rebounder at the 2 spot. C+ rebounding his rookie season. Damn, Sidney is a superstar.
PRE TC: Sidney Moncrief SG 22 6'4'' 180 B- B- B- B+ C A
POST TC: Sidney Moncrief SG 22 6'4'' 180 B- B+ B B+ C+ A
Probably should have been the number 1 pick. +4 out of the gates, holding his A potential. He looks very good. Big time scorer and a nice rebounder at the 2 spot. C+ rebounding his rookie season. Damn, Sidney is a superstar.
3. Seattle Sonics - Mark Eaton
PRE TC: Mark Eaton C 22 7'4'' 275 C+ D+ C- A- B B
POST TC: Mark Eaton C 22 7'4'' 275 C+ C- C- A- B- B
Down rebounder. Down jump shot. Incoming stocks machine. With some camps he's going to be a big time (hopefully) rebounder and defender. Not much of a scorer but that's not his role. At the 3 spot might be a little high but if he's blocking 4 a game with a steal then GOD DAMN. You will take that.
PRE TC: Mark Eaton C 22 7'4'' 275 C+ D+ C- A- B B
POST TC: Mark Eaton C 22 7'4'' 275 C+ C- C- A- B- B
Down rebounder. Down jump shot. Incoming stocks machine. With some camps he's going to be a big time (hopefully) rebounder and defender. Not much of a scorer but that's not his role. At the 3 spot might be a little high but if he's blocking 4 a game with a steal then GOD DAMN. You will take that.
4. Toronto Raptors - Kiki Vandeweghe
PRE TC: Kiki Vandeweghe SF 21 6'8'' 220 B B+ D+ C+ C A
POST TC: Kiki Vandeweghe SF 21 6'8'' 220 B+ A- C- B- C B
Kiki is actually who we thought he was. BIG TIME ELITE SCORER. Let's go. I was going to take him with my next pick if Donaldson was gone. B+ A- in his rookie season is very awesome. Hope the rebounding improves and the defense. I wonder if he handles the rock well. He is going to be an elite scorer in this league for many years.
PRE TC: Kiki Vandeweghe SF 21 6'8'' 220 B B+ D+ C+ C A
POST TC: Kiki Vandeweghe SF 21 6'8'' 220 B+ A- C- B- C B
Kiki is actually who we thought he was. BIG TIME ELITE SCORER. Let's go. I was going to take him with my next pick if Donaldson was gone. B+ A- in his rookie season is very awesome. Hope the rebounding improves and the defense. I wonder if he handles the rock well. He is going to be an elite scorer in this league for many years.
5. Orlando Magic - James Donaldson
PRE TC: James Donaldson C 22 7'2'' 275 B C- C- B+ B B
POST TC: James Donaldson C 22 7'2'' 275 B+ C- C- B+ B+ B
Everyone loves this guy and why shouldn't they! He came in with great notes and went +2. He is supposed to be an elite scorer with plenty of stocks and boards. Magic are pairing Donaldson with Cheeks and Magic Johnson to form an elite trio in the East. Cheers
PRE TC: James Donaldson C 22 7'2'' 275 B C- C- B+ B B
POST TC: James Donaldson C 22 7'2'' 275 B+ C- C- B+ B+ B
Everyone loves this guy and why shouldn't they! He came in with great notes and went +2. He is supposed to be an elite scorer with plenty of stocks and boards. Magic are pairing Donaldson with Cheeks and Magic Johnson to form an elite trio in the East. Cheers
6. New Jersey Nets (from phx) -- Bill Cartwright
PRE TC: Bill Cartwright C 7'1'' 245 22 B C C- B+ B A
POST TC: Bill Cartwright C 22 7'1'' 245 B+ C C- B+ B+ B
Down in potential. Up inside and rebounding. Nice nice. Not bad for the big man. He looks very solid as well but will probably get very little stocks. Not elite when it comes to BBS bigs but who knows. He should have a long steady career in BBS. Greeme will make him good.
PRE TC: Bill Cartwright C 7'1'' 245 22 B C C- B+ B A
POST TC: Bill Cartwright C 22 7'1'' 245 B+ C C- B+ B+ B
Down in potential. Up inside and rebounding. Nice nice. Not bad for the big man. He looks very solid as well but will probably get very little stocks. Not elite when it comes to BBS bigs but who knows. He should have a long steady career in BBS. Greeme will make him good.
7. Sacramento Kings - Larry Smith
PRE TC: Larry Smith PF 6'8'' 215 21 C D+ C- B A- B
POST TC: Larry Smith PF 21 6'8'' 215 C+ D+ C B+ A A
Wow. Nice draft by the Kings. But they ended up trading him to the Wizards for Kermit Washington. Nice move by HF. Larry goes +4 in TC including potential. Amazing rebounder. Looks like a beast. Great foundational piece to build around. Sorry check that +5. He has the best TC So far.
PRE TC: Larry Smith PF 6'8'' 215 21 C D+ C- B A- B
POST TC: Larry Smith PF 21 6'8'' 215 C+ D+ C B+ A A
Wow. Nice draft by the Kings. But they ended up trading him to the Wizards for Kermit Washington. Nice move by HF. Larry goes +4 in TC including potential. Amazing rebounder. Looks like a beast. Great foundational piece to build around. Sorry check that +5. He has the best TC So far.
8. New Jersey Nets(from Wolves) - Vinnie Johnson
PRE TC: Vinnie Johnson SG 23 6'2'' 200 B+ C+ D+ C C B
POST TC: Vinnie Johnson SG 23 6'2'' 200 B+ C+ D+ C C B
Vinnie didn't do much. He looks pretty average or like a bust. I mean B+ inside is nice but he needs to work on his shooting and doesn't defend well. Needs some help.
PRE TC: Vinnie Johnson SG 23 6'2'' 200 B+ C+ D+ C C B
POST TC: Vinnie Johnson SG 23 6'2'' 200 B+ C+ D+ C C B
Vinnie didn't do much. He looks pretty average or like a bust. I mean B+ inside is nice but he needs to work on his shooting and doesn't defend well. Needs some help.
9. Detroit Pistons (from Milwaukee Bucks) - Rick Mahorn
PRE TC: Rick Mahorn PF 6'10'' 240 21 C+ C- C- B+ B B
POST TC: Rick Mahorn C 21 6'10'' 240 C+ C- C- A B B
Woahhh +2. Ricky boy. He looks nice. Habes traded him to the Rockets. Rick is bringing some A defense in his rookie season. I don't hate it at all! Another guy who might have more stocks than the bigs taken earlier. We shall see.
PRE TC: Rick Mahorn PF 6'10'' 240 21 C+ C- C- B+ B B
POST TC: Rick Mahorn C 21 6'10'' 240 C+ C- C- A B B
Woahhh +2. Ricky boy. He looks nice. Habes traded him to the Rockets. Rick is bringing some A defense in his rookie season. I don't hate it at all! Another guy who might have more stocks than the bigs taken earlier. We shall see.
10. Seattle Sonics(from Pistons) - Calvin Natt
PRE TC: Calvin Natt SF 22 6'6'' 220 B C C- B C+ B
POST TC: Calvin Natt SF 22 6'6'' 220 B C C B C+ B
Calvin didn't do much but handles went up. Can't say he is a bust or not because he held his B potential. But looks like a nothing player at the moment.
PRE TC: Calvin Natt SF 22 6'6'' 220 B C C- B C+ B
POST TC: Calvin Natt SF 22 6'6'' 220 B C C B C+ B
Calvin didn't do much but handles went up. Can't say he is a bust or not because he held his B potential. But looks like a nothing player at the moment.
11. Indiana Pacers - Andrew Toney
PRE TC: Andrew Toney SG 22 6'3'' 178 B B- B- B- C- A
POST TC: Andrew Toney SG 22 6'3'' 178 B+ B+ B B C- A
Hey now!! The steal of the draft?? +5 at the 11th spot. Everyone was scared to take him because of his C- rebounding playing guard. Toney shoots up with a great first tc and looks like a formidable player with tons of talent. He should have a long and productive career in BBS. Does he have good handles? Feel like he may turn it over a bit.
PRE TC: Andrew Toney SG 22 6'3'' 178 B B- B- B- C- A
POST TC: Andrew Toney SG 22 6'3'' 178 B+ B+ B B C- A
Hey now!! The steal of the draft?? +5 at the 11th spot. Everyone was scared to take him because of his C- rebounding playing guard. Toney shoots up with a great first tc and looks like a formidable player with tons of talent. He should have a long and productive career in BBS. Does he have good handles? Feel like he may turn it over a bit.
12. Philadelphia 76ers - Earl Cureton
PRE TC: Earl Cureton PF 22 6'9'' 210 C+ C C- A- B B
POST TC: Earl Cureton PF 22 6'9'' 210 B- C D+ A- B+ A
I liked this pick a lot at the time it happened and it looks like it was a good move. Up in potential, rebounding and inside scoring. Down in handles. Earl looks like another solid big in a big heavy class. This could be a strong pick for the Sixers and Erbes. Lots of guys similar to Early had good tcs so it will be interesting to see who comes out of the bunch as the better big.
PRE TC: Earl Cureton PF 22 6'9'' 210 C+ C C- A- B B
POST TC: Earl Cureton PF 22 6'9'' 210 B- C D+ A- B+ A
I liked this pick a lot at the time it happened and it looks like it was a good move. Up in potential, rebounding and inside scoring. Down in handles. Earl looks like another solid big in a big heavy class. This could be a strong pick for the Sixers and Erbes. Lots of guys similar to Early had good tcs so it will be interesting to see who comes out of the bunch as the better big.
13. Miami Heat - Darwin Cook
PRE TC: Darwin Cook PG 6'3'' 184 21 B- C+ C+ A- C B
POST TC: Darwin Cook PG 21 6'3'' 184 B- C+ C+ A- C A
Up in potential is very nice. Looks like a very interesting and fun point guard. Someone skills will talk about constantly. Can't wait to hear about him every day for the next 2 seasons!
PRE TC: Darwin Cook PG 6'3'' 184 21 B- C+ C+ A- C B
POST TC: Darwin Cook PG 21 6'3'' 184 B- C+ C+ A- C A
Up in potential is very nice. Looks like a very interesting and fun point guard. Someone skills will talk about constantly. Can't wait to hear about him every day for the next 2 seasons!
14. Los Angeles Clippers - Dave Greenwood
PRE TC: Dave Greenwood PF 22 6'9'' 222 B C C- B- C+ B
POST TC: Dave Greenwood PF 22 6'9'' 222 B+ C C- B- C+ B
Up inside. Not bad. I actually thought this guy was a huge bust. I mean he needs some more but B+ inside is a nice start. Could be a decent backup.
PRE TC: Dave Greenwood PF 22 6'9'' 222 B C C- B- C+ B
POST TC: Dave Greenwood PF 22 6'9'' 222 B+ C C- B- C+ B
Up inside. Not bad. I actually thought this guy was a huge bust. I mean he needs some more but B+ inside is a nice start. Could be a decent backup.
15. Dallas Mavericks - Kurt Rambis
PRE TC: Kurt Rambis PF 21 6'8'' 213 C+ C C B+ B B
POST TC: Kurt Rambis PF 21 6'8'' 213 B- C C A- B- B
Net plus 1 but up inside and defense. Not a bad pick at all at 15. Kurt Rambis! Mavs got a very good backup big and potentially starter here. He probably should have gone sooner.
PRE TC: Kurt Rambis PF 21 6'8'' 213 C+ C C B+ B B
POST TC: Kurt Rambis PF 21 6'8'' 213 B- C C A- B- B
Net plus 1 but up inside and defense. Not a bad pick at all at 15. Kurt Rambis! Mavs got a very good backup big and potentially starter here. He probably should have gone sooner.
16. Dallas Mavericks(from Warriors) - Bill Hanzlik
PRE TC: Bill Hanzlik SF 6'7'' 185 22 B C C- A- C B
POST TC: Bill Hanzlik SF 22 6'7'' 185 A- C+ C- A- C B
WTF? Where did this guy come from. Now he can't rebound worth shit at the 3 and he needs some help there but my god. Nice looking player coming in his rookie season. I wonder how many points this guy can do. Nice pickup at 16. Nice back-to-back picks for Brian.
PRE TC: Bill Hanzlik SF 6'7'' 185 22 B C C- A- C B
POST TC: Bill Hanzlik SF 22 6'7'' 185 A- C+ C- A- C B
WTF? Where did this guy come from. Now he can't rebound worth shit at the 3 and he needs some help there but my god. Nice looking player coming in his rookie season. I wonder how many points this guy can do. Nice pickup at 16. Nice back-to-back picks for Brian.
17. Atlanta Hawks (from Orlando Magic, Grizzlies) - Sly Williams
PRE TC: Sly Williams SF 21 6'7'' 210 B- C+ C- B+ C+ B
POST TC: Sly Williams SF 21 6'7'' 210 B- C+ C- B+ C+ B
No movement but Sly is another defensive minded player. He needs camps to his offense but another guy I felt could have gone sooner. Hawks traded Chris Ford for this pick to the Magic so we will see who wins this one in the end. Magic get much needed offense while Hawks get a defensive minded rook.
PRE TC: Sly Williams SF 21 6'7'' 210 B- C+ C- B+ C+ B
POST TC: Sly Williams SF 21 6'7'' 210 B- C+ C- B+ C+ B
No movement but Sly is another defensive minded player. He needs camps to his offense but another guy I felt could have gone sooner. Hawks traded Chris Ford for this pick to the Magic so we will see who wins this one in the end. Magic get much needed offense while Hawks get a defensive minded rook.
18. New Orleans Hornets - Jim Paxson
PRE TC: Jim Paxson SG 22 6'6'' 200 C A- C C+ C- B
POST TC: Jim Paxson SG 22 6'6'' 200 C A- C C+ C B
Average backup that can shoot? Not bad. Not great. Nothing exciting tbh.
PRE TC: Jim Paxson SG 22 6'6'' 200 C A- C C+ C- B
POST TC: Jim Paxson SG 22 6'6'' 200 C A- C C+ C B
Average backup that can shoot? Not bad. Not great. Nothing exciting tbh.
19. Detroit Pistons from Lakers via Magic) - Rory Sparrow
PRE TC: Rory Sparrow PG 21 6'2'' 175 B- B- B- C+ C- B
POST TC: Rory Sparrow PG 21 6'2'' 175 B- B C+ B- C B
Net +2 but doesn't look like anything amazing. Then again he gets +26 in him and he's B B C+ B potentially. Not a bad backup or combo 1/2. Habes likes this guy. I like Habes. My friend. My pal.
PRE TC: Rory Sparrow PG 21 6'2'' 175 B- B- B- C+ C- B
POST TC: Rory Sparrow PG 21 6'2'' 175 B- B C+ B- C B
Net +2 but doesn't look like anything amazing. Then again he gets +26 in him and he's B B C+ B potentially. Not a bad backup or combo 1/2. Habes likes this guy. I like Habes. My friend. My pal.
20 Phoenix Suns(from Celtics) - Tiny Lorenzo Romar
PRE TC: Lorenzo Romar PG 21 6'1'' 175 C+ B- B- C+ C B
POST TC: Lorenzo Romar PG 21 6'1'' 175 C+ B B C+ C B
+2 ok ok ok. Not bad. Nothing great but looks ok. He has C rebounding too which is nice for a point guard. IDK. Hard to camp all these guys. I feel like so many guys miss out because people don't have enough camps. Sad really.
PRE TC: Lorenzo Romar PG 21 6'1'' 175 C+ B- B- C+ C B
POST TC: Lorenzo Romar PG 21 6'1'' 175 C+ B B C+ C B
+2 ok ok ok. Not bad. Nothing great but looks ok. He has C rebounding too which is nice for a point guard. IDK. Hard to camp all these guys. I feel like so many guys miss out because people don't have enough camps. Sad really.
21. Houston Rockets - Geoff Huston
PRE TC: Geoff Huston PG 22 6'2'' 175 C B+ B- C C- B
POST TC: Geoff Huston PG 22 6'2'' 175 C A- B- C C- B
Geoofffffff. He actually looks pretty solid? Not that bad. Went up outside. Back-to-back pgs taken and they both look like solid depth pieces. They could develop into something. I wouldn't start them but maybe backups for sure at this point.
PRE TC: Geoff Huston PG 22 6'2'' 175 C B+ B- C C- B
POST TC: Geoff Huston PG 22 6'2'' 175 C A- B- C C- B
Geoofffffff. He actually looks pretty solid? Not that bad. Went up outside. Back-to-back pgs taken and they both look like solid depth pieces. They could develop into something. I wouldn't start them but maybe backups for sure at this point.
22. Sacramento Kings(from Nets) - Kyle Macy
PRE TC: Kyle Macy PG 22 6'3'' 175 C B+ B- C D+ B
POST TC: Kyle Macy PG 22 6'3'' 175 C B+ B- C C- B
Meh he looks like shit. ehhhh. +1 tho. nice....
EDIT: Ok maybe he's ok. Who the hell knows. I'm just a doctor.
PRE TC: Kyle Macy PG 22 6'3'' 175 C B+ B- C D+ B
POST TC: Kyle Macy PG 22 6'3'' 175 C B+ B- C C- B
Meh he looks like shit. ehhhh. +1 tho. nice....
EDIT: Ok maybe he's ok. Who the hell knows. I'm just a doctor.
23. Portland Trailblazers - Clarence Kea
PRE TC:Clarence Kea PF 20 6'6'' 218 B- C C- C+ C+ B
POST TC: Clarence Kea PF 20 6'6'' 218 B C C- B- B- C
oOOOooof. Plus 3 but lost his potential. At what cost? This guy will probably be out of the league in 4 seasons.
PRE TC:Clarence Kea PF 20 6'6'' 218 B- C C- C+ C+ B
POST TC: Clarence Kea PF 20 6'6'' 218 B C C- B- B- C
oOOOooof. Plus 3 but lost his potential. At what cost? This guy will probably be out of the league in 4 seasons.
24. Denver Nuggets(from Cavs) - James Bailey
PRE TC: James Bailey PF 22 6'9'' 220 B C C- B C+ B
POST TC: James Bailey PF 22 6'9'' 220 B+ C C- B C+ B
Decent looking power forward that could potentially be a depth piece. Not bad at pick 24. Could be a solid scorer off the bench.
PRE TC: James Bailey PF 22 6'9'' 220 B C C- B C+ B
POST TC: James Bailey PF 22 6'9'' 220 B+ C C- B C+ B
Decent looking power forward that could potentially be a depth piece. Not bad at pick 24. Could be a solid scorer off the bench.
25. Indiana Pacers(from Bulls) - Mike Niles
PRE TC: Mike Niles SF 24 6'6'' 225 C+ B- C- A- C+ B
POST TC: Mike Niles SF 24 6'6'' 225 C+ B- C- B+ C+ B
Lost his defense probably on the cusp. Not bad ratings for the 25th pick and held onto his potential. Maybe he could be a nice 2/3 backup with that defense, rebounding and shooting.
PRE TC: Mike Niles SF 24 6'6'' 225 C+ B- C- A- C+ B
POST TC: Mike Niles SF 24 6'6'' 225 C+ B- C- B+ C+ B
Lost his defense probably on the cusp. Not bad ratings for the 25th pick and held onto his potential. Maybe he could be a nice 2/3 backup with that defense, rebounding and shooting.
26. Detroit Pistons (from Wizards via Magic) - Cheese Johnson
PRE TC:Cheese Johnson SF 22 6'6'' 195 B- C- C- B- C+ C
POST TC: Cheese Johnson SF 22 6'6'' 195 B- C- C- B- C+ C
cHEEESEEEEEeeeeeee didn't we lock you in a dumpster? I got out!!!! I guess being on the Magic for a hot minute and playing next to Magic Johnson for a hot second at summer camp DID NOT rub off on CHEEEEEESEEEEE. Sorry habes.
PRE TC:Cheese Johnson SF 22 6'6'' 195 B- C- C- B- C+ C
POST TC: Cheese Johnson SF 22 6'6'' 195 B- C- C- B- C+ C
cHEEESEEEEEeeeeeee didn't we lock you in a dumpster? I got out!!!! I guess being on the Magic for a hot minute and playing next to Magic Johnson for a hot second at summer camp DID NOT rub off on CHEEEEEESEEEEE. Sorry habes.
27. Washington Wizards (from Knicks via Sonics) - Clint Richardson
PRE TC: Clint Richardson SG 23 6'3'' 195 B- C+ C+ B- C B
POST TC: Clint Richardson SG 23 6'3'' 195 B- B- B- B- C C
I mean he looks ok? His ratings went up. Potential down. But yeah, looks like a bust to me. Lots of busts towards the backend of this draft. That's gonna happen! Work around me!
PRE TC: Clint Richardson SG 23 6'3'' 195 B- C+ C+ B- C B
POST TC: Clint Richardson SG 23 6'3'' 195 B- B- B- B- C C
I mean he looks ok? His ratings went up. Potential down. But yeah, looks like a bust to me. Lots of busts towards the backend of this draft. That's gonna happen! Work around me!
28. New Orleans Hornets (from San Antonio Spurs) - Flintie Ray Williams
PRE TC: Flintie Ray Williams PG 23 6'3'' 195 C+ C- B- A C C
POST TC: Flintie Ray Williams PG 23 6'3'' 195 B- C- B A C B
Did this guy come in with A defense? I find that hard to believe. He looks actually very good. Kinda similar to a few past guards in BBS with the bad outside shooting but a great defense. I mean hard to start a guard with C- outside but yeah. Unique player here lol.
PRE TC: Flintie Ray Williams PG 23 6'3'' 195 C+ C- B- A C C
POST TC: Flintie Ray Williams PG 23 6'3'' 195 B- C- B A C B
Did this guy come in with A defense? I find that hard to believe. He looks actually very good. Kinda similar to a few past guards in BBS with the bad outside shooting but a great defense. I mean hard to start a guard with C- outside but yeah. Unique player here lol.
29. Denver Nuggets(from Hawks) - John Stroeder
PRE TC:John Stroeder PF 21 6'10'' 260 C+ D+ C- B C+ C
POST TC: John Stroeder PF 21 6'10'' 260 C D+ C- B- C+ C
PRE TC:John Stroeder PF 21 6'10'' 260 C+ D+ C- B C+ C
POST TC: John Stroeder PF 21 6'10'' 260 C D+ C- B- C+ C
Eh sorry john. A bust. He will be out of the league in 4 seasons as well. Cheers lads. Well done.
Any 2nd round Steals? Comment below!
Thanks everyone!
Any 2nd round Steals? Comment below!
Thanks everyone!
