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Post by kobe on Jul 12, 2020 14:38:35 GMT -8
New gm is kinda fucked tho if Sonics gm is gonna work with haves and say he doesn’t want to trade the 07
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Post by Mark on Jul 12, 2020 14:38:41 GMT -8
Yea you should be trying to get Nash too bud I'm in Year 1 of a rebuild with minimal assets. I took over a team that was a complete disaster and absolutely requires a 3 year rebuild. I'm 9-56 in Year 1. I have 5 unprotected 2007 firsts. Given how few assets I have, I absolutely have to tank in 2006, regardless of how good the draft will be. Nash does nothing for me in 2006, and there's a very minimal chance that I'd want him in 2007 (again, I have no assets, I need to acquire them through the draft). The only reason I'd want to deal his 2007 in a deal for Nash is if I thought I could get a great deal for Nash (swinging him elsewhere). I think it's possible that the 2007 Bucks pick is top-5 in the KD draft no matter what happens (rebuild or retool), so I'm going to ask for a ton in return for Nash. Doubt I get it. I kind of like the idea of rolling the dice on the unprotected first more. It's going to be hard to convince me that that value makes sense. So explain why I should want to screw up the above to get a 31 year old PG on a max contract
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Post by Skillz on Jul 12, 2020 14:39:33 GMT -8
I would be upset too if I saw habes’ roster with Nash on it and was trying to convince myself that the 18.5 ppg Luol Deng averages as a sophomore was worth it How dumb are you oof Yep
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Post by Mark on Jul 12, 2020 14:39:42 GMT -8
New gm is kinda fucked tho if Sonics gm is gonna work with haves and say he doesn’t want to trade the 07 Please lawd be trolling. My head hurts
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Post by Erbes on Jul 12, 2020 14:40:00 GMT -8
feel like it's harder to win 42 than people are giving credit for. we're 1 for 5 on CY's here!
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Post by kobe on Jul 12, 2020 14:40:05 GMT -8
Yea you should be trying to get Nash too bud I'm in Year 1 of a rebuild with minimal assets. I took over a team that was a complete disaster and absolutely requires a 3 year rebuild. I'm 9-56 in Year 1. I have 5 unprotected 2007 firsts. Given how few assets I have, I absolutely have to tank in 2006, regardless of how good the draft will be. Nash does nothing for me in 2006, and there's a very minimal chance that I'd want him in 2007 (again, I have no assets, I need to acquire them through the draft). The only reason I'd want to deal his 2007 in a deal for Nash is if I thought I could get a great deal for Nash (swinging him elsewhere). I think it's possible that the 2007 Bucks pick is top-5 in the KD draft no matter what happens (rebuild or retool), so I'm going to ask for a ton in return for Nash. Doubt I get it. I kind of like the idea of rolling the dice on the unprotected first more. It's going to be hard to convince me that that value makes sense. So explain why I should want to screw up the above to get a 31 year old PG on a max contract This thing called trading. Teams will be willing to give a lot for him
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Post by Skillz on Jul 12, 2020 14:40:23 GMT -8
Keep pushing that narrative though that a *rookie putting up those #s is no good He’s fine. Going to be a good 3rd-4th starter for sure!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2020 14:40:35 GMT -8
Ok
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Post by Stevie B on Jul 12, 2020 14:41:04 GMT -8
feel like it's harder to win 42 than people are giving credit for. we're 1 for 5 on CY's here! lol truuu
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Post by Mark on Jul 12, 2020 14:41:18 GMT -8
New gm is kinda fucked tho if Sonics gm is gonna work with haves and say he doesn’t want to trade the 07 Please lawd be trolling. My head hurts I'd love Habes, or anyone, to get Nash. It helps my 07. If he doesn't deal Nash, that's fine too, I still think 2007 is a great asset, and makes more sense for my team than Nash (or trying to swing Nash... just dealt Shaq, it's not easy). Either way I think my status quo is better than Nash. Not sure why this is so complicated or difficult to grasp. Bit quick to call collusion imo
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Post by nybombers3 on Jul 12, 2020 14:41:18 GMT -8
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Post by kobe on Jul 12, 2020 14:41:32 GMT -8
Keep pushing that narrative though that a *rookie putting up those #s is no good He’s fine. Going to be a good 3rd-4th starter for sure! Yea just wish he was a to whore and on max contract like sjax then he would be perfect
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Post by Mark on Jul 12, 2020 14:41:59 GMT -8
I'm in Year 1 of a rebuild with minimal assets. I took over a team that was a complete disaster and absolutely requires a 3 year rebuild. I'm 9-56 in Year 1. I have 5 unprotected 2007 firsts. Given how few assets I have, I absolutely have to tank in 2006, regardless of how good the draft will be. Nash does nothing for me in 2006, and there's a very minimal chance that I'd want him in 2007 (again, I have no assets, I need to acquire them through the draft). The only reason I'd want to deal his 2007 in a deal for Nash is if I thought I could get a great deal for Nash (swinging him elsewhere). I think it's possible that the 2007 Bucks pick is top-5 in the KD draft no matter what happens (rebuild or retool), so I'm going to ask for a ton in return for Nash. Doubt I get it. I kind of like the idea of rolling the dice on the unprotected first more. It's going to be hard to convince me that that value makes sense. So explain why I should want to screw up the above to get a 31 year old PG on a max contract This thing called trading. Teams will be willing to give a lot for him ohhhh! nvm OK i want the pick now. i didn't consider that above
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Post by Stevie B on Jul 12, 2020 14:42:02 GMT -8
the problem with CY also is that in most cases...the new GM is entering a shitty situation. the good GMs get out of it of course...but still.
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Post by kobe on Jul 12, 2020 14:42:28 GMT -8
Deng avg 23 ppg for me so far pretty happy with the fella
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Post by Mark on Jul 12, 2020 14:43:03 GMT -8
the problem with CY also is that in most cases...the new GM is entering a shitty situation. the good GMs get out of it of course...but still. give the new bucks 5 years. i don't think we need to be married to 4 years. some situations are brutal
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Post by Stevie B on Jul 12, 2020 14:44:17 GMT -8
sonics were a rough situation.
magic/hawks weren't bad i don't think. what was the other one?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2020 14:44:22 GMT -8
4 years is make 42 is nothing.
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Post by kobe on Jul 12, 2020 14:44:42 GMT -8
Sucks that 19 year old rookies don’t improve tho!
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Post by Skillz on Jul 12, 2020 14:44:58 GMT -8
He’s fine. Going to be a good 3rd-4th starter for sure! Yea just wish he was a to whore and on max contract like sjax then he would be perfect Oh?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2020 14:45:15 GMT -8
Sucks that 19 year old rookies don’t improve tho!
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Post by Stevie B on Jul 12, 2020 14:45:20 GMT -8
most fringe CY teams are trading all of their future 1sts...if you don't have the talent to reacquire those...makes things incredibly murky and less desirable for a new GM
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Post by 2 years left on Jul 12, 2020 14:45:59 GMT -8
Winning 42 isn't hard...
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2020 14:46:08 GMT -8
i love deng and think he'll be great. and i love being gracious and candid. it's humbling
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Post by Mark on Jul 12, 2020 14:46:10 GMT -8
4 years is make 42 is nothing. almost always true, but it depends. you had a lot of talent. you were able to get your picks back and still have enough leftover to add an extra piece. bucks in a much worse spot
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Post by Stevie B on Jul 12, 2020 14:46:17 GMT -8
4 years is make 42 is nothing. it's not if you walk into a team with assets. which you did. should be quite easy for you then, trap!
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Post by 2 years left on Jul 12, 2020 14:46:26 GMT -8
All the CYed GMs made lots of mistakes
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Post by GAME on Jul 12, 2020 14:47:08 GMT -8
If I can do it anyone can
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Post by kobe on Jul 12, 2020 14:47:10 GMT -8
I would just trade Nash for a top pick in this draft or 06 when it comes. You don’t have to trade for your pick back
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Post by Mark on Jul 12, 2020 14:47:35 GMT -8
It's not, but I think that's an argument in favor of the CY for the original GM (which is the best), not the first four years for the next GM. Some of these situations are terrible and ARE hard to win 42 in
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