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Post by Skillz on May 4, 2020 16:48:54 GMT -8
Article: The BBS Trade Machine – 2000
With BBS in hibernation for almost a decade and tons of pent up energy emanating from this quarantine, activity in BBS’s inaugural season has been through the roof. I once considered myself an active GM, but I can hardly keep up with some of you folks. Tons of posts. Even more articles. Dozens of people on waitlists. This is the life! But we haven’t seen the type of trade participation one would expect from a league humming at this level. We have draconian pick limitations, one-size-fits-all contracts and some conservative GMs at the helm. Have no fear. Some trades are on the way. I present to you – my BBS family – 5 BBS trades that are ready to be processed. If you so wish, you may post these trades. I only ask for a 2nd round pick donation for your time. Hope everyone enjoys. Thought this would be a nice change of pace from the ranking articles. Nets Trade:
Ben Wallace Cavs TradeKeith Van Horn Kelvin Cato Why for the Nets? Although Greeme beamed with confidence after what seemed like a successful draft, the Nets have had an ugly start to the season. The Nets boast the best frontcourt depth in the league but have very little in the way of scoring. Glen Rice is a nice player, but Doug Christie and a bunch of scrubs at the wing spots aren’t going to cut it. New Jersey doesn’t need such a big comparative advantage on the boards – they will be just fine with Deke, Davis and Grant – and Van Horn provides the # 2 option New Jersey needs to keep pace in the East. Why for the Cavs? I think Cleveland has gotten way too much shit for its 5-7 start. This is a good team with a positive point differential and a ton of interesting pieces. I’m not sure they all fit together. KVH and LJ are somewhat redundant, and adding a defensive piece like Ben Wallace should provide the Cavs with more balance. I think the Cavs finish the year with 45-50 wins. Kings Trade
Ron Artest Brian Cardinal Khalid El-Amin Bulls 2002 1st Kings 2001 1st Kings 2002 1st Kings 2003 1st Rockets Trade
Shawn Marion Bo Outlaw Why for the Kings? This is an expensive price to pay for two turnover prone frontcourt players, but I think the Kings are well positioned to compete in what is an abominable Pacific division. Crawford and Kobe makeup the best backcourt in BBS and this team just needs some upgrades in the frontcourt. I have hope for Shawn Marion. He’s a versatile, defensive menace who needs +8 in handles and some TC love. Bo Outlaw is a unique defender who also needs some help with his handles. Crawford is efficient enough with the ball to makeup for deficiencies in the frontcourt, and Marion + Outlaw are young enough that they would fit in Sacramento’s core. Why for the Rockets? It’s tank time. Grab the 4 (!) 1st round picks, secure your spot as with the presumptive # 1 pick in 2001 and start this thing from the ground up. With two defensive players assuming such a heavy usage rate, Outlaw and Marion will ruin their value on a team with no other scorers and turn the ball over more than they would as complementary pieces. This is solid value and a “cut your losses” type of move. Clippers Trade
Corliss Williamson Eduardo Najera Clippers 2002 1st Clippers 2003 1st Heat Trade
Mike Miller Marc Jackson Maurice Taylor Carlos Rogers Brian Skinner Why for the Clippers? The Clippers are in prime position to make serious strides in a terrible Western Conference and have a puncher’s chance at a title. While Payton/Jones/Duncan is a nice trio, this team has zero depth or other productive pieces. Kobe made it his mission to draft every mediocre, somewhat interesting role player in the draft and these dudes can matter on the margins. Most of them do quite well and some of these players are also young enough to play a role in LA’s long-term core. Why for the Heat? None of these players are actually very good or worth much of anything at all. Many are fringe guys who are simming well due to a deflated league. Mike Miller might be the one exception to this, but he has to give something of value to get something. The Clippers 2003 1st is an extremely enticing pick. The Clippers, with a rookie GM, will have few assets to improve the team and will face the impending decline of Gary Payton. Is Tim Duncan, alone, enough to make the playoffs when the talent level around the league picks up? Half of the Western Conference is tanking. That will not be the case in a couple of years. Could be an interesting “buy-low” opportunity on an interesting 1st round pick. Jazz Trade
Scott Pollard Jazz 02 and 03 1st round picks Pacers Trade
Hakeem Olajuwon Why for the Jazz? David Robinson is an old man. The West, as I keep mentioning, is absolutely awful. The Jazz are in position to win something here. So let’s go for it. There aren’t many stud big men in the league right now who are actually available, and Olajuwon is a guy who would be able to make a real difference. Hakeem and D-Rob in a frontcourt…together? With Allan Houston dropping 30 a game? This team would be ready-made for the finals. Why for the Pacers? Indiana has a relatively young core and seems to want to extend its window. The Jazz might be title favorites after this move in 2001, but Olajuwon and David Robinson are both on the doorstep of retirement and those future 1st round picks have legitimate lottery potential. This would be a great way to maximize the value of a player who SARGO essentially got for free. Hornets Trade
Jerry Stackhouse Byron Russell Hornets 03 1st Grizzlies Trade
Aaron Mckie Brian Grant Why for the Hornets? I think the Hornets have assembled a great team. Frankly, I deem them the greatest threat to Eastern Conference supremacy. You know who is not helping? Jerry Stackhouse. He is a one-dimensional turnover whore who could hurt the Hornets in the playoffs. Mckie and Grant aren’t sexy players, but both are very solid and would complement the studs on the Hornets quite well. I think this move would give Pig’s squad with the necessary balance to win a championship.
Why for the Grizzlies? The Grizzlies are solid, but I don’t think Erbes’ squad is in position to win anything of significance and it’s worth picking up value at every turn after making some rough trades during the draft. Stackhouse won’t help a team win many games in 2000, but he has a lot of talent and has the upside to turn into an extremely valuable SG over time after some camps and a TC. Post ‘em up, fellas!
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Post by Skillz on May 4, 2020 16:56:25 GMT -8
I look forward to everyone trashing their side of the trade!
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Post by Galo on May 4, 2020 17:00:45 GMT -8
Some interesting deals. Not sure if Pig would give up on Stack that easy. Although Grant and McKie sim really well.
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Post by Andrew on May 4, 2020 17:02:12 GMT -8
nice article
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Post by Skillz on May 4, 2020 17:39:18 GMT -8
Thanks!
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Post by frangie on May 4, 2020 17:43:10 GMT -8
Really good article idea. On first glance I don’t love my trade but I haven’t looked super close at the heat roster. I’ll check it out.
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Post by Erbes on May 4, 2020 17:45:21 GMT -8
Some interesting deals. Not sure if Pig would give up on Stack that easy. Although Grant and McKie sim really well. yeah its a no from me dawg |
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Post by Erbes on May 4, 2020 17:45:59 GMT -8
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Post by ashes on May 4, 2020 17:56:00 GMT -8
I like Marion. But I wouldn't touch Outlaw with a 10ft pole
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Post by Erbes on May 4, 2020 17:57:55 GMT -8
I like Marion. But I wouldn't touch Outlaw with a 10ft pole why does he have 4.7 topg?  |
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Post by kobe on May 4, 2020 18:09:41 GMT -8
Lol Outlaw first option
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Post by darell on May 4, 2020 18:10:52 GMT -8
Kobe would probably want me to add Duncan as a throw in.
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Post by kobe on May 4, 2020 18:14:44 GMT -8
Kobe would probably want me to add Duncan as a throw in. Not a bad deal but I like Miller more than 2 bad firsts. The other talent cancels each other out |
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Post by kobe on May 4, 2020 18:18:35 GMT -8
well really i give up more talent but the contracts there make it even
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Post by Royal on May 4, 2020 18:29:33 GMT -8
Nice article. But how is this getting 5s.
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Post by frangie on May 4, 2020 18:31:18 GMT -8
well really i give up more talent but the contracts there make it even It’s an interesting deal. Corliss is the best player of the bunch right now. Definitely would give us some more depth but I don’t think a volume of players would help us out enough to justify losing the best player and giving up picks. It’s certainly interesting though and was a very inventive deal. |
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Post by kobe on May 4, 2020 18:32:47 GMT -8
Corliss isn't better than Jackson or Taylor tbh. If so it's marginal
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Post by manasrai on May 4, 2020 18:33:31 GMT -8
5 for me
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Post by frangie on May 4, 2020 18:35:59 GMT -8
Corliss isn't better than Jackson or Taylor tbh. If so it's marginal Does defense not matter in your eyes? |
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Post by kobe on May 4, 2020 18:37:12 GMT -8
Corliss isn't better than Jackson or Taylor tbh. If so it's marginal Does defense not matter in your eyes? Yep. Both Jackson and Taylor gets steals and blocks. Ratings don't always mean everything. Corliss could just have great drive defense because his steals and blocks aren't that high They are both better scorers and rebounders as well |
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Post by Royal on May 4, 2020 18:39:01 GMT -8
Cavs have KG and CWebb, i don't understand that one for them.
Kings-Rockets seems like good value for Marion, Bo Outlaw is kinda meh.
Clippers - Heat, none of those players are worth a 1st currently.
Jazz - Pacers -- All though this would make Jazz a 2001 favorite. They won't give 2 1st for a rental.
Hornets - Grizz, really a good deal for both, but Grizz need to hold on to Grant. West is gonna require teams being strong in the front court to actually compete.
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Post by kobe on May 4, 2020 18:39:31 GMT -8
Cavs have KG and CWebb, i don't understand that one for them. Kings-Rockets seems like good value for Marion, Bo Outlaw is kinda meh. Clippers - Heat, none of those players are worth a 1st currently. Jazz - Pacers -- All though this would make Jazz a 2001 favorite. They won't give 2 1st for a rental. Hornets - Grizz, really a good deal for both, but Grizz need to hold on to Grant. West is gonna require teams being strong in the front court to actually compete. really bad takes here fellas |
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Post by Royal on May 4, 2020 18:40:33 GMT -8
Cavs have KG and CWebb, i don't understand that one for them. Kings-Rockets seems like good value for Marion, Bo Outlaw is kinda meh. Clippers - Heat, none of those players are worth a 1st currently. Jazz - Pacers -- All though this would make Jazz a 2001 favorite. They won't give 2 1st for a rental. Hornets - Grizz, really a good deal for both, but Grizz need to hold on to Grant. West is gonna require teams being strong in the front court to actually compete. really bad takes here fellas elaborate. |
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Post by 2 years left on May 4, 2020 18:40:50 GMT -8
Obviously I wouldn't deal KVH
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Post by kobe on May 4, 2020 18:45:43 GMT -8
really bad takes here fellas elaborate. Cavs big man situation is putrid. Ben would be great for them, they could play Webber at SF. Scoring is the least of there worries with LJ, Cwebb and KG. They can afford to lose KVH scoring A 20 year old SG like Miller is def worth at least a first Stack is hot garbage that wouldn't be a good deal for erbes |
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Post by kobe on May 4, 2020 18:46:11 GMT -8
Obviously I wouldn't deal KVH that deal would make your team much better |
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Post by 2 years left on May 4, 2020 18:46:27 GMT -8
Cavs big man situation is putrid. Ben would be great for them, they could play Webber at SF. Scoring is the least of there worries with LJ, Cwebb and KG. They can afford to lose KVH scoring A 20 year old SG like Miller is def worth at least a first Stack is hot garbage that wouldn't be a good deal for erbes Putrid huh |
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Post by kobe on May 4, 2020 18:47:20 GMT -8
Cavs big man situation is putrid. Ben would be great for them, they could play Webber at SF. Scoring is the least of there worries with LJ, Cwebb and KG. They can afford to lose KVH scoring A 20 year old SG like Miller is def worth at least a first Stack is hot garbage that wouldn't be a good deal for erbes Putrid huh Yea your rebounding is good b/c you have KVH and LJ on the wing not because of your bigs |
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Post by JR on May 4, 2020 18:48:02 GMT -8
Cavs have KG and CWebb, i don't understand that one for them. Kings-Rockets seems like good value for Marion, Bo Outlaw is kinda meh. Clippers - Heat, none of those players are worth a 1st currently. Jazz - Pacers -- All though this would make Jazz a 2001 favorite. They won't give 2 1st for a rental. Hornets - Grizz, really a good deal for both, but Grizz need to hold on to Grant. West is gonna require teams being strong in the front court to actually compete. not 02 and 03 i would give my 01 and your 02 maybe who knows |
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Post by 2 years left on May 4, 2020 18:48:24 GMT -8
Yea your rebounding is good b/c you have KVH and LJ on the wing not because of your bigs Ok then |
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