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Post by autumn harold on Apr 22, 2021 10:50:39 GMT -8
why are people saying no draftees? this matters more for developed youth. they get a second run at high potential that could turn them into superstars. draftees haven't used their potential yet. makes much less difference for them. all it does is make the class deeper
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Post by kobe on Apr 22, 2021 10:51:32 GMT -8
yea the mid round guys are really gonna benefit if used on them. esp some of the more developed guys
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Post by autumn harold on Apr 22, 2021 10:51:49 GMT -8
i have third projected and wouldn't use this on my draftee there in a million years. maybe on the guy i take at 18, but it should be obvious this would matter more for guys like lonzo and fox who are developed and can now get their potential restored.
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Post by Von on Apr 22, 2021 10:52:02 GMT -8
so a 90+ potential rookie can go thru 1 TC and then get another 20 added to bring him back to over 90. mehhhhhhh not too many players even have multiple 90+ potential TCs big advantage to people have draft picks...which is bs but ill see my negative ass out of this thread I mean..... You're going to have a dominant big man in 24 YO Collins on a 7 year contract which you can use a +20 on. If he leaves worst case scenario, you'll have Winslow to use it on who is a very good player on a 5 year contract. I understand your point, but there is a very valid argument that this is better used on dominant young players w/ long term contracts rather than the situation you explained above. Also, with 4 teams carrying 2 picks each and 3 of them with a very good chance of all being in top 3, the more effective strategy would (IMO) to be to boost the mid lotto picks before TC and ride out the original POT on the studs. |
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Post by Skillz on Apr 22, 2021 10:52:18 GMT -8
why are people saying no draftees? this matters more for developed youth. they get a second run at high potential that could turn them into superstars. draftees haven't used their potential yet. makes much less difference for them. all it does is make the class deeper this |
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Post by ashes on Apr 22, 2021 10:59:25 GMT -8
You're not wrong that using it on developed guys has big time benefits, obviously fellas
But y'all crazy if you're dismissing the scenario play mentioned. It'd be different if it had to be used before TC, but if people here are thinking all their lotto picks are retaining 85-90+ potential after first TC, that's some pretty wishful thinking. I'd be stoked to use this on a top pick after first TC, essentially guaranteeing 1 TC with 100 potential after a TC with 85-100 potential already.
But I do hope you guys are right and no one does that
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Post by ashes on Apr 22, 2021 11:00:45 GMT -8
Either way, I have a tough decision!
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Post by Zeke on Apr 22, 2021 11:03:40 GMT -8
You're not wrong that using it on developed guys has big time benefits, obviously fellas But y'all crazy if you're dismissing the scenario play mentioned. It'd be different if it had to be used before TC, but if people here are thinking all their lotto picks are retaining 85-90+ potential after first TC, that's some pretty wishful thinking. I'd be stoked to use this on a top pick after first TC, essentially guaranteeing 1 TC with 100 potential after a TC with 85-100 potential already. But I do hope you guys are right and no one does that Aside from the top 4 how will you be able to gauge which has 60 or 80 pot but thats the risk there arent 30 established young stud looking to get second wind so would be a tough decision for basically everyone. |
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Post by Von on Apr 22, 2021 11:04:12 GMT -8
John Collins and Bam Adebayo owners are the ones who are going to benefit the most from this, ahead of anyone else.
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Post by Play on Apr 22, 2021 11:04:13 GMT -8
so a 90+ potential rookie can go thru 1 TC and then get another 20 added to bring him back to over 90. mehhhhhhh not too many players even have multiple 90+ potential TCs big advantage to people have draft picks...which is bs but ill see my negative ass out of this thread I mean..... You're going to have a dominant big man in 24 YO Collins on a 7 year contract which you can use a +20 on. If he leaves worst case scenario, you'll have Winslow to use it on who is a very good player on a 5 year contract. I understand your point, but there is a very valid argument that this is better used on dominant young players w/ long term contracts rather than the situation you explained above. Also, with 4 teams carrying 2 picks each and 3 of them with a very good chance of all being in top 3, the more effective strategy would (IMO) to be to boost the mid lotto picks before TC and ride out the original POT on the studs. Collins ratings have been the same for 2 straight TCs now. I doubt he has any potential left and I wouldn't waste a +20 on him because of that. None of my guys are gonna benefit from this. |
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Post by Zeke on Apr 22, 2021 11:04:21 GMT -8
But 24 yr olds Ingram, DLo available same with #12 !
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Post by Zeke on Apr 22, 2021 11:04:37 GMT -8
John Collins and Bam Adebayo owners are the ones who are going to benefit the most from this, ahead of anyone else. Jayson Tatum |
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Post by Von on Apr 22, 2021 11:04:53 GMT -8
Al Jefferson retained his 100 POT after the first TC if I am not mistaken?
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Post by greeme on Apr 22, 2021 11:05:06 GMT -8
John Collins and Bam Adebayo owners are the ones who are going to benefit the most from this, ahead of anyone else. False, pgs will |
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Post by greeme on Apr 22, 2021 11:05:38 GMT -8
Also guys like Martin who started with lowish pot and great starting ratings
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Post by 2 years left on Apr 22, 2021 11:06:25 GMT -8
Throw the shitty tankers a bone !
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2021 11:07:20 GMT -8
Nice I have max cap to sign John Collins to a max
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Post by Von on Apr 22, 2021 11:07:39 GMT -8
I mean..... You're going to have a dominant big man in 24 YO Collins on a 7 year contract which you can use a +20 on. If he leaves worst case scenario, you'll have Winslow to use it on who is a very good player on a 5 year contract. I understand your point, but there is a very valid argument that this is better used on dominant young players w/ long term contracts rather than the situation you explained above. Also, with 4 teams carrying 2 picks each and 3 of them with a very good chance of all being in top 3, the more effective strategy would (IMO) to be to boost the mid lotto picks before TC and ride out the original POT on the studs. Collins ratings have been the same for 2 straight TCs now. I doubt he has any potential left and I wouldn't waste a +20 on him because of that. None of my guys are gonna benefit from this. Who cares about ratings. Let's compare Collins from this year to last and you're going to tell me there wasn't any improvement under the hood? |
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Post by ashes on Apr 22, 2021 11:07:56 GMT -8
You're not wrong that using it on developed guys has big time benefits, obviously fellas But y'all crazy if you're dismissing the scenario play mentioned. It'd be different if it had to be used before TC, but if people here are thinking all their lotto picks are retaining 85-90+ potential after first TC, that's some pretty wishful thinking. I'd be stoked to use this on a top pick after first TC, essentially guaranteeing 1 TC with 100 potential after a TC with 85-100 potential already. But I do hope you guys are right and no one does that Aside from the top 4 how will you be able to gauge which has 60 or 80 pot but thats the risk there arent 30 established young stud looking to get second wind so would be a tough decision for basically everyone. I wouldn't use it on guys late lotto or later. If I had a top 5 pick, unless I was absolutely certain this dude had 100 potential, I'd use it. Even if after TC he has 85-88 potential, I'll take only a +12-+15 to get him to 100. Easily. Just glancing at the draft, since I haven't paid much attention to it, there's prob 1 guy I wouldn't use it on, maybe 5 or 6 I think would be likely, and the rest I'd wait to see how their first TC goes. You guys can have a different opinion, that's okay too! |
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Post by greeme on Apr 22, 2021 11:08:06 GMT -8
Nice I have max cap to sign John Collins to a max Didn't you quit |
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Post by ashes on Apr 22, 2021 11:08:20 GMT -8
Nice I have max cap to sign John Collins to a max you mean the new sonics GM does |
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Post by greeme on Apr 22, 2021 11:08:45 GMT -8
Aside from the top 4 how will you be able to gauge which has 60 or 80 pot but thats the risk there arent 30 established young stud looking to get second wind so would be a tough decision for basically everyone. I wouldn't use it on guys late lotto or later. If I had a top 5 pick, unless I was absolutely certain this dude had 100 potential, I'd use it. Even if after TC he has 85-88 potential, I'll take only a +12-+15 to get him to 100. Easily. Just glancing at the draft, since I haven't paid much attention to it, there's prob 1 guy I wouldn't use it on, maybe 5 or 6 I think would be likely, and the rest I'd wait to see how their first TC goes. You guys can have a different opinion, that's okay too! Thank you for letting us have a different opinion |
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Post by greeme on Apr 22, 2021 11:08:58 GMT -8
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Post by Zeke on Apr 22, 2021 11:09:04 GMT -8
I wouldn't use it on guys late lotto or later. If I had a top 5 pick, unless I was absolutely certain this dude had 100 potential, I'd use it. Even if after TC he has 85-88 potential, I'll take only a +12-+15 to get him to 100. Easily. Just glancing at the draft, since I haven't paid much attention to it, there's prob 1 guy I wouldn't use it on, maybe 5 or 6 I think would be likely, and the rest I'd wait to see how their first TC goes. You guys can have a different opinion, that's okay too! Thank you for letting us have a different opinion Kinda refreshing tbh |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2021 11:09:16 GMT -8
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Post by Zeke on Apr 22, 2021 11:09:57 GMT -8
Whoever signs Bam Adebayo in free agency gonna be happy tbh
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Post by ashes on Apr 22, 2021 11:10:28 GMT -8
I wouldn't use it on guys late lotto or later. If I had a top 5 pick, unless I was absolutely certain this dude had 100 potential, I'd use it. Even if after TC he has 85-88 potential, I'll take only a +12-+15 to get him to 100. Easily. Just glancing at the draft, since I haven't paid much attention to it, there's prob 1 guy I wouldn't use it on, maybe 5 or 6 I think would be likely, and the rest I'd wait to see how their first TC goes. You guys can have a different opinion, that's okay too! Thank you for letting us have a different opinion I mean people here are so binary and get so heated about things Figure I'd make sure people know it's just my take! |
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Post by autumn harold on Apr 22, 2021 11:10:37 GMT -8
Lonzo Ball A- A- A A B-
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Post by Orlando Magic Johnson on Apr 22, 2021 11:11:01 GMT -8
hopefully Pats pot is high. maybe give it to bruce brown if he resigns cheap. getting him to 20 ppg would make him a stud yeah now I wish I kept bruce |
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Post by autumn harold on Apr 22, 2021 11:11:06 GMT -8
no one is heated but some of us are wrong
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