Post by chipper on Feb 3, 2022 7:46:42 GMT -8
So below has the lottery from 2032- along with the review and the grades I gave them in my original article, which is here- bbs2020.proboards.com/thread/13222/acd-2032-draft-lottery-grades
1. Denver - Draft- Bob Cousy PG 6'1'' 175 22 B+ B- B- B- C+ A/Review- I mean there's not much to be said here to be honest. Best player in the draft class and will be a franchise player for years. 2032 Grade: A++
Current- 120 Bob Cousy PG 24 6'1'' 175 A- A- A- B+ C+ B-- He's still the best player from this draft- will be a perennial MVP candidate for a long, long time. Has the Nuggets in contention every year. I don't think Dream's Team will ever trade him. Grade: A++
2. Seattle - Draft- Paul Arizin SF 6'4'' 190 22 B+ B- C B- B- A/Review- I know marty really wanted Cousy, but Arizin would have been the #1 pick in almost every other draft. He's also going to be a franchise player for years- surround him with elite defenders and rebounders and you can win a title. 2032 Grade: A++
Current- 92 Paul Arizin SF 24 6'4'' 190 B+ A- C B+ B+ A -- He maybe hasn't developed as high ratings-wise as much as people possibly wanted him to after the draft, but he's still an elite, elite player who does everything well. If his stocks go up more- he'll join Cousy in that MVP race every year. Grade: A+
3. Milwaukee Bucks - Draft- Larry Foust C 6'9'' 215 22 B- C C- B B A/Review- This was the first "controversial" pick of the draft. With Sharman sitting right there, the Bucks, who had an overload of guards, picked Foust because they needed a big. And I'm usually of the opinion you draft BPA and then figure out the fit later, but I totally understand where the Bucks were coming from with this pick. He probably goes 4th if he doesn't go at 3- it's not his fault TC wasn't kind to him- just bad luck. This grade would be higher but Sharman is a stud and I have to dock points for that. 2032 Grade: B
Current- 501 Larry Foust C 24 6'9'' 215 B- C C- B+ A- B -- This was a bit controversial at the time (at least for me) as there seemed to be a clear hierarchy at the top with Cousy, Arizin, and Sharman. But the Bucks needed a big, and Foust has developed into a decent big. He doesn't have any stocks to speak of, and his scoring isn't ideal from a #3 pick, but you could do a lot worse. He's definitely graded lower only because of the players drafted after him. Grade: C+
4. Detroit Pistons - Draft- Bill Sharman SG 6'1'' 175 24 C+ B+ C+ C+ C A/Review- Yeah, I'm gonna toot my own horn here, but I was not expecting Sharman to be available at 4 (although I really should have looked at the Bucks roster before making that call). Regardless- he's going to be a star, as he can do it all from SG and still seemingly has loads of potential available to get even better. 2032 Grade: A+
Current- 533 Bill Sharman SG 26 6'1'' 175 B- A B B C A -- Still a home run pick. I was pissed when I fell to 4 because I assumed Sharman, Cousy, and Arizin would be all gone, but I got lucky. Sharman has developed into an elite scorer and with a decent stocks/to ratio as well. His inside scoring, jump shot, steals, and 3-point shot are all over-85 at last check. If his rebounding could be a bit higher, he'd be perfect (6.5rpg isn't bad though, by any stretch). I doubt I ever trade him, unless I'm getting a better player. And there's not too many of those out there. Grade: A+
5. Minnesota Timberwolves (from LAL) - Draft- Earl Lloyd SF 6'5'' 200 22 B C C- B- C+ B/Review- I was actually kind of surprised by this pick- the notes on Lloyd said he was a solid 5th-starter type, and that's not usually what I'm looking for with the #5 pick. I would have gone with King or Yardley here based off the notes, or tried to trade down, but I know HF was in a hurry and had to go with what he had. 2032 Grade: B-
Current- 102 Earl Lloyd SF 24 6'5'' 200 B C+ C B B- B -- I like this pick a lot better now that I've seen Lloyd sim. He has pretty decent inside scoring, he rebounds decent, and his stocks/to ratio is great. Should be a solid piece in the league for awhile. The 5th starter type was accurate tbh. Grade: B+
6. San Antonio Spurs - Draft- George Yardley SF 6'5'' 190 22 B- B- C- C C+ A/Review- I am a well-known big fan of Yardley (due to having him in my JSB league) but I do love this pick. Yeah, Yardley's defense is pretty bad, but his scoring is excellent and his rebounding is very good, and if you surround him with good defenders, you can hide him in-game. Good pick here. 2032 Grade: A
Current- 218 George Yardley SF 24 6'5'' 190 B+ A- D+ B- C+ C -- I still love this pick. Yardley's one of my favorite historical players and I've had him in other leagues. He's definitely developed into a scoring option who can do everything really well. And his defense has improved a lot since the draft. Love his fit on the Hawks too. Great player. Grade- A+
7. New Orleans Hornets (from Nets) - Draft- George King PG 6'0'' 175 22 C+ C B+ C+ C B/Review- I'm starting to see in Spencer's notes- if he says the player is a "Very good player" he means it. Yeah- King's not going to get as much playing time as he would on other teams being on the same team as Wanzer and Washington, but he has the makings to be a really good scoring and passing PG- averaging 10.5 ppg/3.5 apg in only 13 minutes a game is fantastic. Solid pickup here. 2032 Grade: A-
Current- 510 George King PG 24 6'0'' 175 B- B- B+ B C B -- Still a really good pick- developed into a good scorer with GREAT Assist/TO ratio with decent steals as well. Doesn't get much in the way of boards, but that's a minor quibble. Currently on the Knicks, although as with all Knick players, that will be temporary. Grade: A-
8. Sacramento Kings - Draft- Chuck Share C 6'11'' 235 23 C+ C C- B B+ B/Review- I was FURIOUS when this was the pick- I had just traded into #9 and Share was the guy I wanted. His notes looked good- "Jumpshot, rebounding and post defense are good. Not many stocks." Yeah- the lack of stocks will suck but getting a center with a jump shot who can rebound and defend is always a great lottery pick. If he can improve his stock production, this grade would obviously jump up. 2032 Grade: B+
Current- 95 Chuck Share C 25 6'11'' 235 C+ C- C- B+ A- B -- Looks like this was a miss. Has gone -1 in outside, +1 in defense and +1 in rebounding since the draft, gets absolutely no blocked shots, and his scoring is blah. Rebounding isn't great numbers-wise either. I'd call him a bust. Grade: C
9. Detroit Pistons (from Grizzlies) - Draft- Irwin Dambrot SF 6'4'' 175 22 C+ C+ C C+ C+ A/Review- I ended up picking Dambrot just as a project player- he's very raw, per his notes, but had no really other negatives apart from that. I was HOPING he'd get a big boost with that A potential in TC, but nothing happened. He has time to develop so hopefully his other ratings are good- with a few good TCs he could be a solid player. I almost picked Chuck Cooper instead. 2032 Grade: C+
Current- 611 Irwin Dambrot SF 24 6'4'' 175 C+ C+ C B- C+ B -- He's done jack shit for me and this pick was terrible. Nothing else really I can say. Should have gone 15 picks later. Grade: F-
10. Indiana Pacers - Draft- Stan Christie SF 6'4'' 205 21 B- C C+ A- B- B/Review- Solid player, solid pick. Heck, that's basically what the notes said- "solid defender, some stocks, boards. Pretty solid. Offense isn't special." If his offense can get better, he could start for a few teams. 2032 Grade: B
Current- 239 Stan Christie SF 23 6'4'' 205 B- C C A- B C -- Hasn't done a thing development-wise- is down 1 in handles, up 1 in rebounding, and down 1 in potential. Notes look extremely accurate- solid player but does nothing great and won't start for many teams in the league. Grade: B-
11. Atlanta Hawks (from 76ers) - Draft- Chuck Cooper PF 6'5'' 210 24 B- C C B+ C+ B/Review- I like Cooper a lot. I think he could be a good player in the league- his handles could be bad but they most likely won't end up affecting how he's looked at as a player in BBS. 2032 Grade: B+
Current- 173 Chuck Cooper PF 26 6'5'' 210 B- C C A B- B -- He's not playing for the Bucks at all, which surprises me. His development seems to be solid since the draft- he's up 2 in defense and up 1 in rebounding- but he's never gotten enough playing time anywhere to prove what he can really do. Someone that's in a rebuild/tank phase should hit up the Bucks and give him a shot in a lineup. Grade: INC
12. Miami Heat - Draft- Ralph O'Brien PG 5'9'' 160 22 C B+ B- C+ D+ B/Review- I liked O'Brien as a backup- but this was an auto-pick of BPA by Spencer so it's kinda hard to fault it. It's going to be hard to know what to make of O'Brien until he gets some playing time- which he SHOULD with how bad the Heat are right now. I say that though and he has Darden and Lumpp ahead of him though so it's probably not that simple. The TC was not kind to O'Brien, regardless. 2032 Grade: B-
Current- 63 Ralph O'Brien PG 24 5'9'' 160 C A- C+ C C- C -- Has gone down in handles, defense, and potential and gone up one in outside and rebounding. He's not really playable, so I'm calling him a bust. Grade: D
13. Boston Celtics - Draft- Paul Hicks SG 6'3'' 195 22 C C C A- C+ B/Review- This player can definitely get some stocks, and that's king here in BBS- in 27.7 minutes so far (albeit a very small sample size of 3 games), Hicks is getting 3.7 stocks a game. He's not doing much else (and his scoring seems atrocious), but he could be a defensive ace for a team going forward. 2032 Grade: B+
Current- 198 Paul Hicks SF 24 6'3'' 195 C- C C A- B- B -- He's actually turned into a solid option off the bench for the Celtics with his stocks and solid percentages. He's gone down on inside but up on handles and potential since the draft. For what was overall a weak draft after the top few, this is a good player to get at 13. Glad there's a happy note to round this off. Grade: A-
1. Denver - Draft- Bob Cousy PG 6'1'' 175 22 B+ B- B- B- C+ A/Review- I mean there's not much to be said here to be honest. Best player in the draft class and will be a franchise player for years. 2032 Grade: A++
Current- 120 Bob Cousy PG 24 6'1'' 175 A- A- A- B+ C+ B-- He's still the best player from this draft- will be a perennial MVP candidate for a long, long time. Has the Nuggets in contention every year. I don't think Dream's Team will ever trade him. Grade: A++
2. Seattle - Draft- Paul Arizin SF 6'4'' 190 22 B+ B- C B- B- A/Review- I know marty really wanted Cousy, but Arizin would have been the #1 pick in almost every other draft. He's also going to be a franchise player for years- surround him with elite defenders and rebounders and you can win a title. 2032 Grade: A++
Current- 92 Paul Arizin SF 24 6'4'' 190 B+ A- C B+ B+ A -- He maybe hasn't developed as high ratings-wise as much as people possibly wanted him to after the draft, but he's still an elite, elite player who does everything well. If his stocks go up more- he'll join Cousy in that MVP race every year. Grade: A+
3. Milwaukee Bucks - Draft- Larry Foust C 6'9'' 215 22 B- C C- B B A/Review- This was the first "controversial" pick of the draft. With Sharman sitting right there, the Bucks, who had an overload of guards, picked Foust because they needed a big. And I'm usually of the opinion you draft BPA and then figure out the fit later, but I totally understand where the Bucks were coming from with this pick. He probably goes 4th if he doesn't go at 3- it's not his fault TC wasn't kind to him- just bad luck. This grade would be higher but Sharman is a stud and I have to dock points for that. 2032 Grade: B
Current- 501 Larry Foust C 24 6'9'' 215 B- C C- B+ A- B -- This was a bit controversial at the time (at least for me) as there seemed to be a clear hierarchy at the top with Cousy, Arizin, and Sharman. But the Bucks needed a big, and Foust has developed into a decent big. He doesn't have any stocks to speak of, and his scoring isn't ideal from a #3 pick, but you could do a lot worse. He's definitely graded lower only because of the players drafted after him. Grade: C+
4. Detroit Pistons - Draft- Bill Sharman SG 6'1'' 175 24 C+ B+ C+ C+ C A/Review- Yeah, I'm gonna toot my own horn here, but I was not expecting Sharman to be available at 4 (although I really should have looked at the Bucks roster before making that call). Regardless- he's going to be a star, as he can do it all from SG and still seemingly has loads of potential available to get even better. 2032 Grade: A+
Current- 533 Bill Sharman SG 26 6'1'' 175 B- A B B C A -- Still a home run pick. I was pissed when I fell to 4 because I assumed Sharman, Cousy, and Arizin would be all gone, but I got lucky. Sharman has developed into an elite scorer and with a decent stocks/to ratio as well. His inside scoring, jump shot, steals, and 3-point shot are all over-85 at last check. If his rebounding could be a bit higher, he'd be perfect (6.5rpg isn't bad though, by any stretch). I doubt I ever trade him, unless I'm getting a better player. And there's not too many of those out there. Grade: A+
5. Minnesota Timberwolves (from LAL) - Draft- Earl Lloyd SF 6'5'' 200 22 B C C- B- C+ B/Review- I was actually kind of surprised by this pick- the notes on Lloyd said he was a solid 5th-starter type, and that's not usually what I'm looking for with the #5 pick. I would have gone with King or Yardley here based off the notes, or tried to trade down, but I know HF was in a hurry and had to go with what he had. 2032 Grade: B-
Current- 102 Earl Lloyd SF 24 6'5'' 200 B C+ C B B- B -- I like this pick a lot better now that I've seen Lloyd sim. He has pretty decent inside scoring, he rebounds decent, and his stocks/to ratio is great. Should be a solid piece in the league for awhile. The 5th starter type was accurate tbh. Grade: B+
6. San Antonio Spurs - Draft- George Yardley SF 6'5'' 190 22 B- B- C- C C+ A/Review- I am a well-known big fan of Yardley (due to having him in my JSB league) but I do love this pick. Yeah, Yardley's defense is pretty bad, but his scoring is excellent and his rebounding is very good, and if you surround him with good defenders, you can hide him in-game. Good pick here. 2032 Grade: A
Current- 218 George Yardley SF 24 6'5'' 190 B+ A- D+ B- C+ C -- I still love this pick. Yardley's one of my favorite historical players and I've had him in other leagues. He's definitely developed into a scoring option who can do everything really well. And his defense has improved a lot since the draft. Love his fit on the Hawks too. Great player. Grade- A+
7. New Orleans Hornets (from Nets) - Draft- George King PG 6'0'' 175 22 C+ C B+ C+ C B/Review- I'm starting to see in Spencer's notes- if he says the player is a "Very good player" he means it. Yeah- King's not going to get as much playing time as he would on other teams being on the same team as Wanzer and Washington, but he has the makings to be a really good scoring and passing PG- averaging 10.5 ppg/3.5 apg in only 13 minutes a game is fantastic. Solid pickup here. 2032 Grade: A-
Current- 510 George King PG 24 6'0'' 175 B- B- B+ B C B -- Still a really good pick- developed into a good scorer with GREAT Assist/TO ratio with decent steals as well. Doesn't get much in the way of boards, but that's a minor quibble. Currently on the Knicks, although as with all Knick players, that will be temporary. Grade: A-
8. Sacramento Kings - Draft- Chuck Share C 6'11'' 235 23 C+ C C- B B+ B/Review- I was FURIOUS when this was the pick- I had just traded into #9 and Share was the guy I wanted. His notes looked good- "Jumpshot, rebounding and post defense are good. Not many stocks." Yeah- the lack of stocks will suck but getting a center with a jump shot who can rebound and defend is always a great lottery pick. If he can improve his stock production, this grade would obviously jump up. 2032 Grade: B+
Current- 95 Chuck Share C 25 6'11'' 235 C+ C- C- B+ A- B -- Looks like this was a miss. Has gone -1 in outside, +1 in defense and +1 in rebounding since the draft, gets absolutely no blocked shots, and his scoring is blah. Rebounding isn't great numbers-wise either. I'd call him a bust. Grade: C
9. Detroit Pistons (from Grizzlies) - Draft- Irwin Dambrot SF 6'4'' 175 22 C+ C+ C C+ C+ A/Review- I ended up picking Dambrot just as a project player- he's very raw, per his notes, but had no really other negatives apart from that. I was HOPING he'd get a big boost with that A potential in TC, but nothing happened. He has time to develop so hopefully his other ratings are good- with a few good TCs he could be a solid player. I almost picked Chuck Cooper instead. 2032 Grade: C+
Current- 611 Irwin Dambrot SF 24 6'4'' 175 C+ C+ C B- C+ B -- He's done jack shit for me and this pick was terrible. Nothing else really I can say. Should have gone 15 picks later. Grade: F-
10. Indiana Pacers - Draft- Stan Christie SF 6'4'' 205 21 B- C C+ A- B- B/Review- Solid player, solid pick. Heck, that's basically what the notes said- "solid defender, some stocks, boards. Pretty solid. Offense isn't special." If his offense can get better, he could start for a few teams. 2032 Grade: B
Current- 239 Stan Christie SF 23 6'4'' 205 B- C C A- B C -- Hasn't done a thing development-wise- is down 1 in handles, up 1 in rebounding, and down 1 in potential. Notes look extremely accurate- solid player but does nothing great and won't start for many teams in the league. Grade: B-
11. Atlanta Hawks (from 76ers) - Draft- Chuck Cooper PF 6'5'' 210 24 B- C C B+ C+ B/Review- I like Cooper a lot. I think he could be a good player in the league- his handles could be bad but they most likely won't end up affecting how he's looked at as a player in BBS. 2032 Grade: B+
Current- 173 Chuck Cooper PF 26 6'5'' 210 B- C C A B- B -- He's not playing for the Bucks at all, which surprises me. His development seems to be solid since the draft- he's up 2 in defense and up 1 in rebounding- but he's never gotten enough playing time anywhere to prove what he can really do. Someone that's in a rebuild/tank phase should hit up the Bucks and give him a shot in a lineup. Grade: INC
12. Miami Heat - Draft- Ralph O'Brien PG 5'9'' 160 22 C B+ B- C+ D+ B/Review- I liked O'Brien as a backup- but this was an auto-pick of BPA by Spencer so it's kinda hard to fault it. It's going to be hard to know what to make of O'Brien until he gets some playing time- which he SHOULD with how bad the Heat are right now. I say that though and he has Darden and Lumpp ahead of him though so it's probably not that simple. The TC was not kind to O'Brien, regardless. 2032 Grade: B-
Current- 63 Ralph O'Brien PG 24 5'9'' 160 C A- C+ C C- C -- Has gone down in handles, defense, and potential and gone up one in outside and rebounding. He's not really playable, so I'm calling him a bust. Grade: D
13. Boston Celtics - Draft- Paul Hicks SG 6'3'' 195 22 C C C A- C+ B/Review- This player can definitely get some stocks, and that's king here in BBS- in 27.7 minutes so far (albeit a very small sample size of 3 games), Hicks is getting 3.7 stocks a game. He's not doing much else (and his scoring seems atrocious), but he could be a defensive ace for a team going forward. 2032 Grade: B+
Current- 198 Paul Hicks SF 24 6'3'' 195 C- C C A- B- B -- He's actually turned into a solid option off the bench for the Celtics with his stocks and solid percentages. He's gone down on inside but up on handles and potential since the draft. For what was overall a weak draft after the top few, this is a good player to get at 13. Glad there's a happy note to round this off. Grade: A-
