Post by Skillz on Jul 7, 2020 17:39:23 GMT -8
The 75 Most Valuable Players in BBS - 2004-05
It’s that time of the year again. New draft, new TC, new world. The BBS value landscape changes every sim, but every season we like to take a beat and see where all of our players fall.
Let’s get to it. As always, player value involves production, ratings, contract status, age, camp status, player perception and alike.
As a reminder, I ranked your players much lower than they should be ranked and it is because I have a personal vendetta against you.
Okay, let’s get to it.
Tier 5 (75-48):
A mix: a) very old players who used to be elite but no longer carry the same value because of their age, b) interesting prospects who are not sure things, C) good players in their respective prime’s who can start on contending teams but are not the key to a title team’s success.
Notes: This is the longest “Tier 5” we have had so far, and the pool of interesting players continues to grow and grow. There are some really good players on this list. But a lot of them are on max contracts. If you are just barely worth your contract value, we probably see you here. Otherwise, we have some good young players who just don’t qualify for Tier 4 status and some good role players on reasonable contracts.
Baron Davis PG 25 6'3'' 225 B B A A- C- C
Antawn Jamison SF 28 6'9'' 235 A B D+ B- C+ C
Andre Miller PG 25 6'2'' 202 B C+ A- B C B
Grant Hill SF 32 6'8'' 240 B+ A- B- C+ C C
Grant Hill SF 32 6'8'' 240 B+ A- B- C+ C C
Larry Hughes SG 25 6'5'' 203 B+ B- C A- C C
James Posey SF 27 6'8'' 219 C+ A- C A- C C
Theo Ratliff PF 31 6'10'' 235 B C- D+ A C+ B
Leandro Barbosa PG 22 6'3'' 195 C+ A- C+ C+ D+ B
Pau Gasol C 24 7'0'' 264 B+ C C+ A- B
Lamar Odom SF 24 6'11'' 233 B+ B B+ B+ B B
Nenad Krstic C 21 7'1'' 246 B- C- D+ B+ B- A
Arvydas Macijauskas SG 24 6'4'' 221 B- A C C+ D+ C
Samuel Dalembert C 23 6'11'' 261 C+ C- C- A- B C
Kenyon Martin C 27 6'9'' 267 B D C- B+ B+ B
Eddie Griffin PF 23 6'11'' 234 C+ C C- A- B C
Tyson Chandler C 22 7'1'' 254 B+ D+ C- A- B- C
Andris Biedrins C 18 7'0'' 243 C+ D- D B+ B A
Devin Harris PG 21 6'3'' 187 C+ B B- B+ C- B
Chris Kaman C 22 7'0'' 268 B C- D+ B- B C
Stephen Jackson SG 26 6'8'' 219 B- A- C B+ C B
Stephen Jackson SG 26 6'8'' 219 B- A- C B+ C B
Chris Webber PF 31 6'10'' 258 A- C C A- A- C
Elton Brand PF 25 6'8'' 263 A- C- C B B+ C
Rasheed Wallace PF 30 6'11'' 241 B+ C C+ A B- B
Antoine Walker SF 28 6'9'' 250 A- C+ A- C+ B C
Zydrunas Ilgauskas C 29 7'3'' 266 B+ C- D+ A- B C
Richard Jefferson SF 24 6'7'' 238 B A- D B C+ C
Predrag Stojakovic SG 27 6'9'' 229 B A C B- C+ D
Jason Williams PG 28 6'1'' 191 B- B A B- D D
Jerome Moiso PF 26 6'10'' 244 B+ C C A B B
Tier 4 (47-35):
Enticing young players (cut-off: age 25) who have the potential to rise on this list in the future. These guys are either flawed, not fully formed, or haven’t reached their respective peaks yet.
Notes: I like all of these guys. I don’t think any have a great chance of becoming Tier ½ stars, but all are valuable players on rookie contracts who have value to literally every team in the league. Most are more fully-formed than the young dudes in tier 5.
Joe Johnson SG 23 6'7'' 240 B A- B- C+ C- C
Eddy Curry C 22 7'0'' 296 B+ C- D+ B C+ B
Al Jefferson C 19 6'11'' 292 B C- D+ C+ B- A
Josh Smith PF 19 6'10'' 228 B C+ C B C+ A
Amar'e Stoudemire C 22 6'11'' 248 A- C- C- B B B
Luol Deng SF 19 6'9'' 240 B- B C C+ C B
Caron Butler SG 24 6'7'' 234 B B+ B B C B
Tayshaun Prince SF 24 6'9'' 220 C+ A- C A- C C
Josh Howard SF 24 6'7'' 216 B A- C B C+ B
Shaun Livingston PG 19 6'8'' 194 C+ C B- A- C A
Mehmet Okur C 25 6'11'' 260 B B C- B- B+ C
Carmelo Anthony SF 20 6'8'' 235 B B+ C+ C- C+ A
Paccelis Morlende PG 23 6'2'' 191 C C B- B C B
Udonis Haslem C 24 6'8'' 242 B+ C C- A- B+ C
David West C 24 6'9'' 253 B- C C A B+ B
Tier 3 (35-24):
Prime-aged or veteran complementary players who are foundational pieces on good teams. These guys are really good, in their prime, but probably wouldn’t be tasked with superstar duties on an elite team. The best # 2 and # 3 bananas in the league.
Notes: This is always the most dicey group, since a lot of the fringe guys on this list could very well be in Tier 5. Are Ron Artest and AK47 that much more valuable than Jerome Moiso for instance? Probably not, but they squeak by because of age and because of the way I categorize players. The rest of the dudes are similar to last year.
Glenn Robinson SF 31 6'7'' 230 B+ A- D+ C+ C D
Andrei Kirilenko SF 24 6'9'' 226 B+ C+ C+ A C B
Jermaine O'Neal C 26 6'11'' 250 A- C- F+ A- B- B
Jermaine O'Neal C 26 6'11'' 250 A- C- F+ A- B- B
Ron Artest SF 24 6'8'' 262 C+ A- C+ A- C+ B
Shawn Marion SF 26 6'7'' 233 B+ C+ C A B+ C
Allan Houston SG 33 6'6'' 200 B A+ B- B D+ D
Marcus Camby PF 30 6'11'' 243 B C C+ A A- C
Mike Bibby PG 26 6'2'' 192 C A B+ B+ D+ C
Gerald Wallace PF 22 6'9'' 229 A- C C+ A- B+ B
Dwight Howard C 19 6'11'' 228 B D+ D+ B B+ A
Andre Iguodala SG 20 6'6'' 218 B B- C+ A- C A
Zach Randolph C 23 6'10'' 261 B C+ C- B B+ B
Chris Bosh PF 20 7'1'' 241 A- C C- B+ B A
Tier 2 (23-13)
Really good players who can function as your best player but are ideally suited as # 2’s on the best, best teams. Some of these guys are # 1s but are moved from tier 1 because of positional scarcity or age. Others are younger and project to be come Tier 1 guys soon.
Notes: A lot of the same cast and crew! Mourning and Shaq are awesome but on the wrong side of 30. Ben Wallace is a human defense by himself. Jason Kidd never gets the credit he deserves. I imagine those are the players people would question. The rest of the list is fairly straight forward. Nash moves from Tier 2 to Tier 1 as the Point Guard landscape depends, his rebounding and potential drops to “D,” and he turns 30.
Jason Kidd PG 31 6'4'' 215 C+ B+ A+ A C C
Alonzo Mourning C 34 6'10'' 267 A- C- C A- A- D
Ben Wallace C 30 6'9'' 259 B- F+ F+ A+ A B
Shaquille O'Neal C 32 7'1'' 320 A D- C+ A+ A C
Manu Ginobili SF 28 6'6'' 217 B A- C+ C+ C C
Yao Ming C 24 7'6'' 313 B C D+ B+ B+ A
Ricky Davis SG 25 6'7'' 215 B+ A- C C+ C- C
Keith Van Horn SF 29 6'10'' 250 B A- D B- B C
Ray Allen SG 29 6'5'' 211 B A B- B C- D
Dimitris Diamantidis SG 24 6'5'' 204 B+ A C+ C C C
Steve Nash PG 30 6'3'' 195 C+ A A+ C+ D D
Vince Carter SG 27 6'7'' 224 B+ A C B C C
Tier 1 (12-1)
The best players in the league, period.
Notes: What is wrong with the Spurs? I considered dropping both Jamal and T-Mac because two Tier 1 stars should be enough to carry a team like that, but I do think they would both notch top value in a trade. Wade is better than LeBron right now, but LeBron’s ratings will fill out and he’s going to be a monster. He’s two years younger. I think Kobe is the most dominant two-way player in the league right now. I don’t know if Wade or LeBron’s ~50% outcome is as good as he or Duncan, so they stay at # 3 and 4 for now.
Jamal Crawford PG 24 6'6'' 190 B- A B C D+ A
Tracy McGrady SF 25 6'8'' 221 A- A C+ B+ C+ B
Gilbert Arenas PG 22 6'4'' 199 B+ A C C- D+ B
Gilbert Arenas PG 22 6'4'' 199 B+ A C C- D+ B
Allen Iverson SG 29 6'0'' 165 A- A- B+ A- C- C
Tony Parker PG 22 6'3'' 194 B B C+ B+ D+ B
Chauncey Billups PG 28 6'3'' 212 C A C A- C B
Kevin Garnett PF 28 6'11'' 243 A- C C A+ A- B
Dirk Nowitzki SF 26 7'0'' 267 B+ A- D+ B+ B A
Dwyane Wade SG 22 6'4'' 213 B+ C+ C+ B+ C+ A
LeBron James SF 20 6'10'' 233 A- B+ B- C+ B- A
Tim Duncan C 28 7'0'' 281 A- C B A+ A B
Kobe Bryant SG 26 6'7'' 219 A- A B+ A+ C C
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