AC Done - All Star Break Player Rankings

[jahallstar]

    Well it seemed like a good time to drop the first full player rankings of the new BBS. We are at the all-star break and that means half the season is behind us. In this version of the player rankings I put a big emphasis on penalizing players that had high turnover rates. This may have caused PGs to be harmed some overall but we'll see what the masses feel about that. Old man Michael Jordan had a really good showing in these initial rankings. Also I feel that RAsheed Wallace is placing much higher than would have been expected when we started the season. On the flip side I'm sure most people expected Elton Brand to be rated much higher than #40 when things were starting up! Without further ado lets get to the meat of the pie!

Rank Name
1 Tim Duncan
2 Shaquille O'Neal
3 Alonzo Mourning
4 Michael Jordan
5 Allen Iverson
6 Kobe Bryant
7 Allan Houston
8 Rasheed Wallace
9 Kevin Garnett
10 David Robinson
11 Steve Nash
12 Ray Allen
13 Dikembe Mutombo
14 Ricky Davis
15 Keith Van Horn
16 John Stockton
17 Jason Kidd
18 Marcus Camby
19 Tracy McGrady
20 Jalen Rose
21 Hakeem Olajuwon
22 Grant Hill
23 Michael Finley
24 Steve Francis
25 Vince Carter
26 Jamal Mashburn
27 Dirk Nowitzki
28 Paul Pierce
29 Jamal Crawford
30 Karl Malone
31 Larry Johnson
32 Glenn Robinson
33 Chris Webber
34 Antoine Walker
35 Zydrunas Ilgauskas
36 Tony Massenburg
37 Latrell Sprewell
38 Arvydas Sabonis
39 Scottie Pippen
40 Elton Brand
41 Joe Smith
42 Mark Blount
43 Shareef Abdur-Rahim
44 Anthony Mason
45 Antonio McDyess
46 Shawn Marion
47 Bobby Jackson
48 Darrell Armstrong
49 Charlie Ward
50 Kenny Thomas
51 Chauncey Billups
52 Eddie Jones
53 Jason Terry
54 Nick Van Exel
55 Glen Rice
56 Stephen Jackson
57 Stephon Marbury
58 Howard Eisley
59 Brian Grant
60 Kurt Thomas
61 Al Harrington
62 Juwan Howard
63 John Celestand
64 Larry Hughes
65 Antonio Davis
66 Anfernee Hardaway
67 Gary Payton
68 Tim Thomas
69 Bo Outlaw
70 Richard Hamilton
71 Predrag Stojakovic
72 Toni Kukoc
73 Vlade Divac
74 Antawn Jamison
75 Sam Cassell
76 Chucky Atkins
77 Shawn Bradley
78 Jermaine O'Neal
79 Scot Pollard
80 Doug Christie
81 Steve Smith
82 Kenyon Martin
83 Baron Davis
84 Jason Hart
85 Corliss Williamson
86 Kerry Kittles
87 Reggie Miller
88 Ben Wallace
89 Donyell Marshall
90 Jim Jackson
91 Theo Ratliff
92 Damon Stoudamire
93 Lamar Odom
94 Terrell Brandon
95 Bonzi Wells
96 Danny Fortson
97 Brad Miller
98 Tim Hardaway
99 Voshon Lenard
100 Andre Miller
101 Eduardo Najera
102 Walt Williams
103 Primoz Brezec
104 Jake Voskuhl
105 Rashard Lewis
106 Chris Mihm
107 Vitaly Potapenko
108 Jabari Smith
109 Jerry Stackhouse
110 Michael Dickerson
111 Aaron Williams
112 Erick Dampier
113 George Lynch
114 James Posey
115 Lorenzen Wright
116 Todd MacCulloch
117 Bryon Russell
118 Monty Williams
119 Marc Jackson
120 Rasho Nesterovic
121 Maurice Taylor
122 DerMarr Johnson
123 Mike Bibby
124 Dale Davis
125 Clifford Robinson
126 Tony Delk
127 Kendall Gill
128 Michael Redd
129 Mitch Richmond
130 Soumaila Samake
131 Etan Thomas
132 Jim McIlvaine
133 Keon Clark
134 Derek Anderson
135 Raef LaFrentz
136 Steve Kerr
137 Charles Oakley
138 Adam Keefe
139 Adonal Foyle
140 Marcus Fizer
141 Jason Williams
142 Ernest Brown
143 Jacque Vaughn
144 P.J. Brown
145 Hanno Mottola
146 Erick Barkley
147 Donnell Harvey
148 Nazr Mohammed
149 Michael Olowokandi
150 Corey Maggette
151 Stromile Swift
152 Quentin Richardson
153 Samaki Walker
154 Jake Tsakalidis
155 Isaac Austin
156 Carlos Rogers
157 Avery Johnson
158 Bob Sura
159 Michael Curry
160 Mike Miller
161 Ervin Johnson
162 Jelani McCoy
163 Sam Perkins
164 Joel Przybilla
165 Devean George
166 Danny Manning
167 Mike Smith
168 Dalibor Bagaric
169 Eric Snow
170 Hedo Turkoglu
171 Derrick Coleman
172 Mahmoud Abdul-Rauf
173 Terry Mills
174 Shandon Anderson
175 Tony Battie
176 Corie Blount
177 Derrick McKey
178 Jerome Moiso
179 Moochie Norris
180 Vernon Maxwell
181 Jeff Foster
182 Michael Stewart
183 Will Perdue
184 Mark Madsen
185 Elden Campbell
186 Christian Laettner
187 Pervis Ellison
188 Luc Longley
189 Tom Gugliotta
190 Brian Skinner
191 Muggsy Bogues
192 Billy Owens
193 Wesley Person
194 Lamond Murray
195 Gary Trent
196 Brevin Knight
197 Jerome Williams
198 Chris Anstey
199 Ron Artest
200 Robert Traylor
201 Marko Jaric
202 Danny Ferry
203 Trajan Langdon
204 Earl Boykins
205 Shawn Kemp
206 Dan Majerle
207 Cory Alexander
208 Jahidi White
209 Jamaal Magloire
210 Dennis Scott
211 Ron Mercer
212 Tracy Murray
213 Kelvin Cato
214 Vin Baker
215 Dee Brown
216 Bryant Reeves
217 Tyrone Corbin
218 Scott Padgett
219 Hubert Davis
220 Fred Hoiberg
221 Lavor Postell
222 Wally Szczerbiak
223 Jason Collier
224 Adrian Griffin
225 Ruben Patterson
226 Cuttino Mobley
227 Greg Buckner
228 Jaquay Walls
229 Anthony Carter
230 Mike Penberthy
231 Chris Gatling
232 Aaron McKie
233 Brian Cardinal
234 Greg Ostertag
235 Tamar Slay
236 Bruce Bowen
237 Mario Elie
238 Raja Bell
239 Jason Caffey
240 Michael Ruffin
241 Travis Best
242 Ron Harper
243 Malik Rose
244 Shammond Williams
245 Jon Barry
246 Bruno Sundov
247 Damon Jones
248 Gerard King
249 Mikki Moore
250 Bill Wennington
251 Greg Anthony
252 Kenny Anderson
253 Nick Anderson
254 Rodney Buford
255 Popeye Jones
256 Matt Bullard
257 Michael Smith
258 Gheorghe Muresan
259 John Amaechi
260 Loy Vaught
261 Felipe Lopez
262 Dion Glover
263 Speedy Claxton
264 Antonio Daniels
265 Brent Barry
266 Mark Karcher
267 Andrae Patterson
268 Darius Miles
269 Aleksandar Radojevic
270 Dana Barros
271 Mamadou N'Diaye
272 Matt Geiger
273 Desmond Mason
274 Patrick Ewing
275 Olumide Oyedeji
276 Dan Langhi
277 Lindsey Hunter
278 Johnny Newman
279 Pete Mickeal
280 Michael Hawkins
281 Igor Rakocevic
282 Erick Strickland
283 Rod Strickland
284 Lawrence Funderburke
285 Dickey Simpkins
286 Haywoode Workman
287 Felton Spencer
288 Evan Eschmeyer
289 Jamie Feick
290 Sherman Douglas
291 Rafer Alston
292 Morris Peterson
293 Bryant Stith
294 Brian Shaw
295 Tariq Abdul-Wahad
296 Corey Hightower
297 Jonathan Bender
298 Cedric Henderson
299 Rasual Butler
300 Chris Mills
301 David Wingate
302 Robert Horry
303 Andrew Lang
304 Randy Holcomb
305 Calvin Booth
306 Chris Childs
307 John Starks
308 Walter McCarty
309 Chris Dudley
310 Troy Hudson
311 Darrick Martin
312 Tyrone Hill
313 LaPhonso Ellis
314 Brent Price
315 Keith Closs
316 Rick Fox
317 Alan Henderson
318 Andy Panko
319 Chris Mullin
320 Othella Harrington
321 DeShawn Stevenson
322 Mark Bryant
323 A.J. Guyton
324 Rex Chapman
325 David Wesley
326 Horace Grant
327 Chris Carrawell
328 Kevin Willis
329 Anthony Miller
330 Michael Doleac
331 Marcus Taylor
332 Oliver Miller
333 Cedric Ceballos
334 Jamal Sampson
335 Mark Jackson
336 Corey Benjamin
337 Antonio Lang
338 DeeAndre Hulett
339 Otis Thorpe
340 Obinna Ekezie
341 Rick Brunson
342 John Crotty
343 Chris Herren
344 Anthony Peeler
345 Dell Curry
346 Khalid El-Amin
347 Etdrick Bohannon
348 Clarence Weatherspoon
349 Randy Brown
350 Anthony Johnson
351 Rodney Rogers
352 Derrick Dial
353 Mookie Blaylock
354 Stacey Augmon
355 Olden Polynice
356 Isaiah Rider
357 Travis Knight
358 Eric Murdock
359 Lee Nailon
360 Austin Croshere
361 Chris Porter
362 Roshown McLeod
363 Greg Foster
364 Courtney Alexander
365 Dean Garrett
366 Scott Williams
367 Greg Minor
368 Scott Burrell
369 Eric Williams
370 Calbert Cheaney
371 Doug Overton
372 Hersey Hawkins
373 Jerome Kersey
374 George McCloud
375 Eddie Robinson
376 Quincy Lewis
377 Mirsad Turkcan
378 Lucious Harris
379 Ryan Robertson
380 William Avery
381 Jumaine Jones
382 Terry Porter
383 Pat Garrity
384 Derek Fisher
385 Tyronn Lue
386 Robert Pack
387 Chris Whitney
388 Mark Davis
389 John Williams


Now we are going to break down each position one by one.

    I don't think there is much doubt that Steve Nash is the best PG in the league. I do however feel there are suprises in here. Living legend John Stockton is currently the #2 point guard in the league after nearly playing 20 seasons! It goes to show how limiting your turnovers goes a long way. Several young upstarts here as well to include Francis , Crawford , Billups and Terry.

TOP 10 POINT GUARDS

11 Steve Nash
16 John Stockton
17 Jason Kidd
24 Steve Francis
29 Jamal Crawford
47 Bobby Jackson
48 Darrell Armstrong
49 Charlie Ward
51 Chauncey Billups
53 Jason Terry

Some could argue that the future of the league is in the shooting guard position. Iverson, Allen and Kobe could dominate this league for years to come. Lets not forget the GOAT is still leading the way though!

TOP 10 SHOOTING GUARDS

4 Michael Jordan
5 Allen Iverson
6 Kobe Bryant
7 Allan Houston
12 Ray Allen
14 Ricky Davis
20 Jalen Rose
23 Michael Finley
37 Latrell Sprewell
52 Eddie Jones

    The position that lacks the most star power but has the most depth currently? That would be the Small Forwards, and leading the way? Well that is KVH which I'm sure few expected. Watch out for the young trio of McGrady , Carter and Pierce though!

TOP 10 SMALL FORWARDS

15 Keith Van Horn
19 Tracy McGrady
22 Grant Hill
25 Vince Carter
26 Jamal Mashburn
28 Paul Pierce
31 Larry Johnson
32 Glenn Robinson
34 Antoine Walker
39 Scottie Pippen

    Tim Duncan is in a league of his own here. Lots of young upstarts are going to look to catch him though. And look at #'s 3 and 4 to tell you that defense does matter!

TOP 10 POWER FORWARDS

1 Tim Duncan
8 Rasheed Wallace
9 Kevin Garnett
18 Marcus Camby
27 Dirk Nowitzki
30 Karl Malone
33 Chris Webber
36 Tony Massenburg
40 Elton Brand
44 Anthony Mason

    Shaq and Zo! It will be fun to see those two go at it in the playoffs. Where is the depth here though? Shawn Bradley at #10 Lots of age on this list. The league will be searching for the next elite centers to make their names known!

TOP 10 CENTERS

Rank Name
2 Shaquille O'Neal
3 Alonzo Mourning
10 David Robinson
13 Dikembe Mutombo
21 Hakeem Olajuwon
35 Zydrunas Ilgauskas
38 Arvydas Sabonis
42 Mark Blount
73 Vlade Divac
77 Shawn Bradley

[frangie]

I am guessing this was a ton of work. Must have used some sort of formula... did you base it on stats ratings or both?

[Spencer]

Pretty sure its all stats. Love it.

[jahallstar]

May 9, 2020 9:16:57 GMT -8 frangie said:

I am guessing this was a ton of work. Must have used some sort of formula... did you base it on stats ratings or both?

Stats....no ratings involved at all!

[2 years left]

Interesting

[Skillz]

MJ >>

Thankful i didn’t trade him

[Lasagna and tears of failure]

damn, love that Joe Smith that I got hate on in the draft for picking in the 3rd is #41

[ashes]

hmm

[JR]

Might be blind don’t see scot pollard

[Lasagna and tears of failure]

May 9, 2020 9:41:21 GMT -8 JR said:

Might be blind don’t see scot pollard

#79

[Nanz]

Gryffindor!~~~!!!! 5!!!!!

[JR]

Wonder what the formula for stats were

[Lasagna and tears of failure]

May 9, 2020 9:43:22 GMT -8 JR said:

Wonder what the formula for stats were

((pnts+A+R+s)/to)*shooting %

no idea, but that's where I'd start if I was to build one.  Just a random thought

wonder how that would work out

[Nanz]

thats his secret sauce... the big mac sauce

[Orlando Magic Johnson]

good stuff!

[JR]

May 9, 2020 9:42:24 GMT -8 Lasagna and tears of failure said:

May 9, 2020 9:41:21 GMT -8 JR said:

Might be blind don’t see scot pollard

#79

Thanks. All starters top 80 hueeeee and the 6th man as well!!

[jahallstar]

May 9, 2020 9:46:20 GMT -8 Lasagna and tears of failure said:

May 9, 2020 9:43:22 GMT -8 JR said:

Wonder what the formula for stats were

((pnts+A+R+s)/to)*shooting %

no idea, but that's where I'd start if I was to build one.  Just a random thought

wonder how that would work out

Lol.... Not close

[Lasagna and tears of failure]

May 9, 2020 9:55:41 GMT -8 jahallstar said:

May 9, 2020 9:46:20 GMT -8 Lasagna and tears of failure said:

((pnts+A+R+s)/to)*shooting %

no idea, but that's where I'd start if I was to build one.  Just a random thought

wonder how that would work out

Lol.... Not close

didn't think it would be, was just doing a random one free flowing thought.  when I looked at it, I was... nah

[Lasagna and tears of failure]

May 9, 2020 9:51:09 GMT -8 JR said:

May 9, 2020 9:42:24 GMT -8 Lasagna and tears of failure said:

#79

Thanks. All starters top 80 hueeeee and the 6th man as well!!

[Lasagna and tears of failure]

May 9, 2020 9:51:09 GMT -8 JR said:

May 9, 2020 9:42:24 GMT -8 Lasagna and tears of failure said:

#79

Thanks. All starters top 80 hueeeee and the 6th man as well!!

I start off well, 5, 41... then the cliff gets STEEEEEEP lol

[JR]

May 9, 2020 9:58:58 GMT -8 Lasagna and tears of failure said:

May 9, 2020 9:51:09 GMT -8 JR said:

Thanks. All starters top 80 hueeeee and the 6th man as well!!

I start off well, 5, 41... then the cliff gets STEEEEEEP lol

lol i got 7, 10, 47 for my top 3

[JR]

May 9, 2020 9:47:03 GMT -8 Nanz said:

thats his secret sauce... the big mac sauce

can i have one?

[Lasagna and tears of failure]

May 9, 2020 10:11:23 GMT -8 JR said:

May 9, 2020 9:58:58 GMT -8 Lasagna and tears of failure said:

I start off well, 5, 41... then the cliff gets STEEEEEEP lol

lol i got 7, 10, 47 for my top 3

very nice

[jahallstar]

I'll do a per 48 min one too

[insane]

well balanced 5

[Andrew]

interested to see your weightings unless its a proprietary formula

[Erbes]

good but it omits brian grant!?!?!

[jahallstar]

May 9, 2020 10:59:19 GMT -8 Andrew said:

interested to see your weightings unless its a proprietary formula

Blocks and Steals are worth more than any other stat of course....rebounds and assists are fairly close....  %'s are weighted.    TOs are currently set to a 3 aggregate.....so 3 assists and 1 TO would be a net of 0 points towards the formula.

[Lasagna and tears of failure]

May 9, 2020 11:01:02 GMT -8 Erbes said:

good but it omits brian grant!?!?!

#59

[jahallstar]

May 9, 2020 11:01:02 GMT -8 Erbes said:

good but it omits brian grant!?!?!

#59