AC Done - Top 5 based each position + a couple of my guys
May 13, 2020 17:30:28 GMT -8
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Post by Lasagna and tears of failure on May 13, 2020 17:30:28 GMT -8
Welcome, welcome to another statistical analysis of players of BBS. I added a couple of mine to see how they stacked up with the best in the league, and was saddened by how poor Bibby was when I looked at him compared to the top point guards, but more on that in a minute. I used JAHs chart of top players at a position as a starting point and then went and got all the stats from each of those players so I could get a true EFT% as you need to have number of 3 pointers made, field goals made and field goals attempted to calculate the EFT%. EFT& is done to offset a PF who shots 3-6 on layups looking as good or better than a SG who shoots 2-6 on three pointers. Both scored 6, but one is only shooting 33% vs a 50% shooter.
I looked at the PER formula by John Hollinger, and realized while I would not mind programming it, doing it in excel would blow chunks. So I looked at combining a basic version of his with the outdated ( (ppg+R+A+B+S-TO) to come up with a rating that not only rewarded a good EFT, but also penalized people from missing fee points. I’m sure Shaq hates this formula that I developed. While it really hurt his points portion of the formula, his nonstop rebounding and the best assist per game rate of any of the Centers has him as one of the best Centers in the game.
All together
Now to the meat of it:
At Point guard, there is none better than Steve Nash of the Knicks. Old man Stockton is nearly as good; however, his days are numbered and will be announcing his retirement any day now. If the Nuggets get more than one more season with him, they literally struck gold in the creation draft. The guy that did literally strike gold was Ashes, as he got a youngster in Jamal Crawford that is part of the best back court in basketball hands down. We will get to his other dynamic partner soon enough. Bibby for me looks woeful, but if you take out the points portion of the equation, he jumps into the same range as Nash, Francis and Crawford. This gives me hope with him as recently his ppg have been climbing steadily and has been posting 18-26 a night. Currently he is 13 ppg and at the all star break he was still under 10ppg. The other hope for Bibby is he is a B potential, is 22 and has been camped with 23 points. Feeling OK with him as the number 2 pick as he has really been coming on in the sims and that was before his recent camps.
Moving on to SG, the formulas do not lie, Jordan is the best #2 spot in the league. His SBT ratio + his rebounds and assist were more than enough to counter how badly AI killed him in scoring. Kobe comes in 3rd among the SGs rated and when the Kings get a big man the team is going to rock and roll nonstop and possibly better than any team in the league. Allan H and R Allen round out the rest of the list.
At SF we have the tightest bunching of the list, with a mere 2.5 points separating all of them. This position has perplexed me the most and look forward to playing with the engine to understand it more. KVH for the Cavs takes top honors, though I have heard he was a SG for most of the season and would knock Ray Allen of that list for #5. On avg SF on the list are only beat out by PG for bad B+S/To ratio. This is the biggest thing I’ve noticed while doing the statistical analysis.
Next, we come to the PFs which is where the undisputed champ of the league statistically speaking comes in. Duncan. Hands down, even though I like the Kobe / Crawford backcourt, the Duncan / Crawford team would be destroying the league. Duncan’s 62-point rating is 10 points higher than the number 2 rating. KG come in 2nd and shows why he is, and no question was a top 10 pick in the draft. Smith was added to the list for me to check how my 3rd pick stacked up. About a ½ point behind Dirk, is a pretty good showing considering his numbers at the all-star break were about 5 ppg lower. Another young guy I am really high on since he came in 41st on JAHs first chart and 21st on his 48-minute chart. While JAH had him as a SF for that list, he had only played 5 games there all season, and all his minutes so far have been at PF except the sim before the All Star game.
What hurt Shaq in these ratings is his inability to take advantage of free points at the line. The only center to have their ppgFormula be at or above their ppgs was the lowly A Williams that was added for comparison. The top Center goes to Zo. Always a fan of the big man from his days with the Heat. While Center is a spot the Celtics have to fill with a good body, turns out Williams was a steal for the 8th pick in the draft.
I looked at the PER formula by John Hollinger, and realized while I would not mind programming it, doing it in excel would blow chunks. So I looked at combining a basic version of his with the outdated ( (ppg+R+A+B+S-TO) to come up with a rating that not only rewarded a good EFT, but also penalized people from missing fee points. I’m sure Shaq hates this formula that I developed. While it really hurt his points portion of the formula, his nonstop rebounding and the best assist per game rate of any of the Centers has him as one of the best Centers in the game.
All together
Now to the meat of it:
At Point guard, there is none better than Steve Nash of the Knicks. Old man Stockton is nearly as good; however, his days are numbered and will be announcing his retirement any day now. If the Nuggets get more than one more season with him, they literally struck gold in the creation draft. The guy that did literally strike gold was Ashes, as he got a youngster in Jamal Crawford that is part of the best back court in basketball hands down. We will get to his other dynamic partner soon enough. Bibby for me looks woeful, but if you take out the points portion of the equation, he jumps into the same range as Nash, Francis and Crawford. This gives me hope with him as recently his ppg have been climbing steadily and has been posting 18-26 a night. Currently he is 13 ppg and at the all star break he was still under 10ppg. The other hope for Bibby is he is a B potential, is 22 and has been camped with 23 points. Feeling OK with him as the number 2 pick as he has really been coming on in the sims and that was before his recent camps.
Moving on to SG, the formulas do not lie, Jordan is the best #2 spot in the league. His SBT ratio + his rebounds and assist were more than enough to counter how badly AI killed him in scoring. Kobe comes in 3rd among the SGs rated and when the Kings get a big man the team is going to rock and roll nonstop and possibly better than any team in the league. Allan H and R Allen round out the rest of the list.
At SF we have the tightest bunching of the list, with a mere 2.5 points separating all of them. This position has perplexed me the most and look forward to playing with the engine to understand it more. KVH for the Cavs takes top honors, though I have heard he was a SG for most of the season and would knock Ray Allen of that list for #5. On avg SF on the list are only beat out by PG for bad B+S/To ratio. This is the biggest thing I’ve noticed while doing the statistical analysis.
Next, we come to the PFs which is where the undisputed champ of the league statistically speaking comes in. Duncan. Hands down, even though I like the Kobe / Crawford backcourt, the Duncan / Crawford team would be destroying the league. Duncan’s 62-point rating is 10 points higher than the number 2 rating. KG come in 2nd and shows why he is, and no question was a top 10 pick in the draft. Smith was added to the list for me to check how my 3rd pick stacked up. About a ½ point behind Dirk, is a pretty good showing considering his numbers at the all-star break were about 5 ppg lower. Another young guy I am really high on since he came in 41st on JAHs first chart and 21st on his 48-minute chart. While JAH had him as a SF for that list, he had only played 5 games there all season, and all his minutes so far have been at PF except the sim before the All Star game.
What hurt Shaq in these ratings is his inability to take advantage of free points at the line. The only center to have their ppgFormula be at or above their ppgs was the lowly A Williams that was added for comparison. The top Center goes to Zo. Always a fan of the big man from his days with the Heat. While Center is a spot the Celtics have to fill with a good body, turns out Williams was a steal for the 8th pick in the draft.
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