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Post by Lasagna and tears of failure on May 21, 2020 7:10:06 GMT -8
Red’s PEF Commish Challenge Analysis
Well everyone, Spencer said he wanted to know what was out there league wide, about Centers and PGs, so Red always one to be good at compiling lists has stepped up. Since one was done last night that had every position, Red decided it was the best thing to do to include everyone that scores more than 15 a game, other than rooks cause they were just covered. First, we look at the Centers, which was hard to find, as several teams didn’t even have a Center listed. Also, they had to be worth rating, there are some cringeworthy Centers out there. Duncan as everyone knows is heads better than everyone.
Next come the PG. Much better group to compare, with Nash being heads and tails better than everyone, but Stockton and Crawford make a strong showing. For some reason, I always see Kidd’s name brought up and he comes in 4th.  Now for the rest, players averaging over 15ppg were chosen, but again the rooks get tossed as they were just done. How about how tightly bunched SGs are at the top. MJ is trying to keep the bar set high so that in retirement, he’ll be the highest rated player that isn’t named Duncan.  And the last group is the SF with KVH taking top honors. Since this season is still such a small sample size, these were done with career numbers.  Onto the PF we go. How about my man KG leading the pack! That’s what I’m talking about, and he should be on the Celtics. Speaking of the Celtics, look at the sleeper in Smith quietly rising up the ranks of the best Power Forwards out there. Of 100 games, only 15 have come at SF.  For those that do not read ever article I little history about the RPEF:
I looked at the PER formula by John Hollinger, and realized while I would not mind programming it, doing it in excel would blow chunks. So I looked at combining a basic version of his idea with the outdated ( (ppg+R+A+B+S-TO) to come up with a rating that not only rewarded a good EFT, but also penalized people from missing fee points. I’m sure Shaq hates this formula that I developed. While it really hurt his points portion of the formula, his nonstop rebounding and the best assist per game rate of any of the Centers has him as one of the best Centers in the game. Now to validate the formula I looked at historical data of some of the best players to ever play the game and then further tweaked the formula to reward steals a tad more than blocks as a block doesn’t automatically cause a turnover. At no point was the PEF copied or tweaked, just a few ideas about what he has done. |
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Post by Spencer on May 21, 2020 9:04:59 GMT -8
This is awesome. Shawn Bradley.
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Post by Spencer on May 21, 2020 9:06:16 GMT -8
So Im guessing 17 or 18 would be near ideal. 6 centers with Bradley at 6. 10 PGs.
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Post by Galo on May 21, 2020 9:11:04 GMT -8
Good job
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Post by Galo on May 21, 2020 9:11:44 GMT -8
Interesting PER ratings by position
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Post by Galo on May 21, 2020 9:11:55 GMT -8
Bradley underrated for sure
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Post by Galo on May 21, 2020 9:13:52 GMT -8
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Post by ashes on May 21, 2020 9:17:29 GMT -8
Big Dong Reid omitted again
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Post by Stevie B on May 21, 2020 9:18:41 GMT -8
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Post by frangie on May 21, 2020 9:50:05 GMT -8
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Post by Lasagna and tears of failure on May 21, 2020 9:51:57 GMT -8
for centers and PG 30+ mpg for everyone else 15ppg or more |
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Post by Lasagna and tears of failure on May 21, 2020 9:54:04 GMT -8
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Post by Lasagna and tears of failure on May 21, 2020 9:55:32 GMT -8
Big Dong Reid omitted again 2 Reid comes in at 14.292 |
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Post by ashes on May 21, 2020 9:57:41 GMT -8
What about my boy Meh Met O Kur
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Post by Galo on May 21, 2020 9:58:08 GMT -8
for centers and PG 30+ mpg for everyone else 15ppg or more Ok interesting that Mason missing here |
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Post by Lasagna and tears of failure on May 21, 2020 10:03:41 GMT -8
for centers and PG 30+ mpg for everyone else 15ppg or more Ok interesting that Mason missing here I copy pasted most of this after midnight last night, I'm guessing I missed a couple people... including my own PG it seems  was just looking for him lol |
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Post by Erbes on May 21, 2020 10:07:06 GMT -8
now do grant as a SF
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Post by manasrai on May 21, 2020 10:09:35 GMT -8
Great stuff!
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Post by frangie on May 21, 2020 10:22:54 GMT -8
Wow, that’s not bad at all. |
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Post by Lasagna and tears of failure on May 21, 2020 14:54:06 GMT -8
damn the Admin loves this and yet no votes...  |
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Post by Lasagna and tears of failure on May 21, 2020 14:54:33 GMT -8
guess I'm blocked by 2/3 of the league for spammin
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Post by frangie on May 21, 2020 16:17:20 GMT -8
Well I mean it is kind of a meaningless statistic... no one knows what it signifies.
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Post by frangie on May 21, 2020 16:19:06 GMT -8
By that I mean, the statistic I calculate for players is basically points added or saved. So a shot made adds a certain number of points vs a generic possession. A turnover loses a certain number of points. A steal saves a certain number of points. Etc. so the stat actually has a translatable value.
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Post by Lasagna and tears of failure on May 21, 2020 16:19:35 GMT -8
Well I mean it is kind of a meaningless statistic... no one knows what it signifies. For being meaningless, it seems to have captured the flavor of the league. Was kind of amazed myself how well it correlated with the best of the best. |
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Post by frangie on May 21, 2020 16:21:01 GMT -8
Well I mean it is kind of a meaningless statistic... no one knows what it signifies. For being meaningless, it seems to have captured the flavor of the league. Was kind of amazed myself how well it correlated with the best of the best. Maybe meaningless was the wrong word... I meant it doesn’t directly equal something. Like what does a difference of 1 signify? |
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Post by Lasagna and tears of failure on May 21, 2020 16:28:38 GMT -8
For being meaningless, it seems to have captured the flavor of the league. Was kind of amazed myself how well it correlated with the best of the best. Maybe meaningless was the wrong word... I meant it doesn’t directly equal something. Like what does a difference of 1 signify? After looking closely, I think spence nailed it, 17-18 is the sweet spot , anything better is heading towards studliness, anything worse... is filler. 1 point is degrees of studliness versus not. Now sadly, there is no way to quantify a players def ability / affect |
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Post by GAME on May 21, 2020 18:23:49 GMT -8
This is awesome. Shawn Bradley. |
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Post by GAME on May 21, 2020 18:25:11 GMT -8
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Post by Spencer on May 22, 2020 6:10:12 GMT -8
Brians AC Done.
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was just looking for him lol
