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Post by RexLuthor on Jan 23, 2022 11:18:05 GMT -8
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2022 11:18:17 GMT -8
And as we all knew, the drama would come back in no time what drama? There is none
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2022 11:18:46 GMT -8
And as we all knew, the drama would come back in no time what drama? There is none Id wait for any GM to get under at the deadline. Its the only decision to make. Wheres the drama?
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Post by Andrew on Jan 23, 2022 11:20:43 GMT -8
IMO let Marty slide. Implement something going forward. Shouldn't be on Spencer to check people's salary and the rest of the league shouldn't wait for a sim. Unacceptable. Rules exist for a reason. the rule is that you have 48 hours to get under. there is no contingency written about not being able to trade. that portion of the rules section would need to get updated
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Post by Skillz on Jan 23, 2022 11:20:47 GMT -8
And for what it’s worth, not enforcing a penalty here would be a horrible precedent. I was pretty vocal about how waiting for royal was ridiculous … if there is no HC penalty at the deadline, opens up the floodgate for teams entirely ignoring the $78M during any deadline deals.
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Post by Andrew on Jan 23, 2022 11:21:59 GMT -8
yeah there is no drama. not liking marty does not override consistent GM treatment by spence.
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Post by Skillz on Jan 23, 2022 11:22:09 GMT -8
We sim 10 days every 24 hours. It’s self-evident that the hard cap penalty would apply for the trade deadline sim. If it doesn’t, there is nothing compelling GMs from going over the hard cap during day 91 every season
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Post by 2 years left on Jan 23, 2022 11:22:22 GMT -8
Very important to invest in a calculator
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Post by Andrew on Jan 23, 2022 11:23:24 GMT -8
And for what it’s worth, not enforcing a penalty here would be a horrible precedent. I was pretty vocal about how waiting for royal was ridiculous … if there is no HC penalty at the deadline, opens up the floodgate for teams entirely ignoring the $78M during any deadline deals. I don't disagree with this but the precedent has already been set, horrible or not.
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Post by greeme on Jan 23, 2022 11:28:25 GMT -8
Unacceptable. Rules exist for a reason. the rule is that you have 48 hours to get under. there is no contingency written about not being able to trade. that portion of the rules section would need to get updated Ok so he will get the penalty before the playoffs? Who should he loses? Kuminga ? That would do him a favor? Augmon? Ditto. Paul? Overkill. It should be like the second or third best guy but he only has 1 player with value
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Post by greeme on Jan 23, 2022 11:28:37 GMT -8
Odd situation
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Post by Stevie B on Jan 23, 2022 11:29:36 GMT -8
So you want a rule that if somebody goes over on 99 we just wait for him? i'm sure no one wants that, and if spence wants to announce that he won't do that anymore, i'm all for it. but until he does that, have to give guys the same treatment royal got or just not punish them. it’s royal’s world and we are just living in it
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Post by Andrew on Jan 23, 2022 11:30:24 GMT -8
the rule is that you have 48 hours to get under. there is no contingency written about not being able to trade. that portion of the rules section would need to get updated Ok so he will get the penalty before the playoffs? Who should he loses? Kuminga ? That would do him a favor? Augmon? Ditto. Paul? Overkill. It should be like the second or third best guy but he only has 1 player with value he shouldn't lose anyone given that another GM was not penalized previously for being in this situation
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Post by Stevie B on Jan 23, 2022 11:30:50 GMT -8
Spence has his favorites clearly lol
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Post by Losanglife on Jan 23, 2022 11:31:14 GMT -8
marty shouldn't get punished. but why the hell are we waiting for guys to get under. a gm needs to control that on his own Gotta pick one side and stick to it no i don't you fucking goof. if it was allowed before we can move forward differently from here on out
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Post by nybombers3 on Jan 23, 2022 11:32:13 GMT -8
And for what it’s worth, not enforcing a penalty here would be a horrible precedent. I was pretty vocal about how waiting for royal was ridiculous … if there is no HC penalty at the deadline, opens up the floodgate for teams entirely ignoring the $78M during any deadline deals. Hence me saying that Spencer needs to put in a rule from here on out. It's a loophole that has been opened up already and never closed.
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Post by Andrew on Jan 23, 2022 11:32:59 GMT -8
Don't understand the constant negativity towards me from skillz its whatever though .consistency is important greeme making the argument for not punishing Marty is world class
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Post by Orlando Magic Johnson on Jan 23, 2022 11:33:04 GMT -8
But he went over on the sim, not before what
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Post by Stevie B on Jan 23, 2022 11:34:18 GMT -8
Spence allowing Royal all that time to get over is hilarious
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Post by autumn harold on Jan 23, 2022 11:34:42 GMT -8
And for what it’s worth, not enforcing a penalty here would be a horrible precedent. I was pretty vocal about how waiting for royal was ridiculous … if there is no HC penalty at the deadline, opens up the floodgate for teams entirely ignoring the $78M during any deadline deals. no one is advocating for that. Spence set a standard and didn’t follow it here. The answer isn’t to not enforce; it’s to set a rule and stick to it, whether that’s giving people extra time if they’re over at the deadline or holding them responsible for monitoring their hc situation if they make deadline deals. Pretty sure everyone prefers the latter, but it’s not fair to provide Royal time to get under and tell another guy he’s SOL
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Post by Losanglife on Jan 23, 2022 11:34:58 GMT -8
Spence allowing Royal all that time to get over is hilarious
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Post by Andrew on Jan 23, 2022 11:36:13 GMT -8
also I don't think people are going to maliciously or intentional go out of there way to go over the HC at the trade deadline. marty just overlooked the salary of a trade - it happens
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2022 11:36:30 GMT -8
Spence allowing Royal all that time to get over is hilarious best part is this Id wait for any GM to get under at the deadline. Its the only decision to make.
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Post by Stevie B on Jan 23, 2022 11:36:42 GMT -8
Spencer not waiting shows his favoritism for certain GMs
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2022 11:37:16 GMT -8
Spence allowing Royal all that time to get over is hilarious best part is this Id wait for any GM to get under at the deadline. Its the only decision to make. Have we had a team go over the HC after the deadline?
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Post by greeme on Jan 23, 2022 11:37:53 GMT -8
Ok so he will get the penalty before the playoffs? Who should he loses? Kuminga ? That would do him a favor? Augmon? Ditto. Paul? Overkill. It should be like the second or third best guy but he only has 1 player with value he shouldn't lose anyone given that another GM was not penalized previously for being in this situation He wasn't in this situation, he had more time to get under but he wasn't in this situation
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Post by Andrew on Jan 23, 2022 11:38:06 GMT -8
I'm all for the conversation about changing this in the future, but for this current situation is seems very cut and dry
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Post by greeme on Jan 23, 2022 11:40:09 GMT -8
I'm all for the conversation about changing this in the future, but for this current situation is seems very cut and dry Yup Marty is over the hc and can't get under
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Post by Andrew on Jan 23, 2022 11:40:16 GMT -8
he shouldn't lose anyone given that another GM was not penalized previously for being in this situation He wasn't in this situation, he had more time to get under but he wasn't in this situation yes there hasn't been a team over 78M after day 100 but I genuinely believe this is just semantics. Royal would have been in this situation had Spence chosen to sim.
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Post by Losanglife on Jan 23, 2022 11:40:18 GMT -8
I'm all for the conversation about changing this in the future, but for this current situation is seems very cut and dry
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