Post by Skillz on Jun 18, 2020 14:40:15 GMT -8
Article: BBS’s 75 Most Valuable Players (2003-04)
It’s that time of the year again. New draft, new TC, new world. The BBS value landscape changes every sim, but every season we like to take a beat and see where all of our players fall.
Let’s get to it. As always, player value involves production, ratings, contract status, age, camp status, player perception and alike.
As a reminder, I ranked your players much lower than they should be ranked and it is because I have a personal vendetta against you.
Okay, let’s get to it.
Tier 5 (75-54):
A mix: a) very old players who used to be elite but no longer carry the same value because of their age, b) interesting prospects who are not sure things, C) good players in their respective prime’s who can start on contending teams but are not the key to a title team’s success.
Some thoughts: I imagine the players in the 60-54 range will raise some eyebrows, as many of these guys appeared a lot higher on this list last year. That’s what newly-minted max contracts will do to you. Grant Hill is good (not great) and now on a 6-year max. Paul Pierce, Antawn Jamison and Antoine Walker have revealed themselves to be provocative flaws – nicely rated players with big holes in their games. Elton Brand underwhelms everywhere he goes. Finley, Miller and Moiso are all good but a little overpaid. Some of the guys closer to 65-75 have nice futures and are good role players.
Jason Williams PG 27 6'1'' 190 C+ B A C+ D D
John Salmons SF 24 6'7'' 216 B- B+ C+ C+ C B
Kirk Hinrich PG 22 6'4'' 193 C B C+ B- C- B
Milos Vujanic PG 23 6'3'' 189 C+ A- C C D+ B
James Posey SF 26 6'8'' 216 C+ A- C A- C D
Marquis Daniels SG 22 6'6'' 203 B B- C B- C B
Jamal Mashburn SF 30 6'8'' 243 B+ B+ C+ B- C C
Zydrunas Ilgauskas C 28 7'3'' 266 B+ C- C- A- B C
Lamar Odom SF 23 6'11'' 233 B B A- A- B B
Theo Ratliff PF 30 6'10'' 235 B C- D+ A C+ C
Joel Przybilla C 24 7'1'' 260 C D C- A- B C
Samuel Dalembert C 22 6'11'' 258 C+ C- C- A- B- B
Corey Maggette SF 23 6'6'' 228 A- B C B C+ C
Michael Finley SG 30 6'7'' 215 B+ A- C+ B- C D
Andre Miller PG 24 6'2'' 202 B C+ A- B C B
Jerome Moiso C 25 6'10'' 241 B+ C C A- B C
Antoine Walker SF 27 6'9'' 250 B+ B- A- C+ B C
Brian Grant PF 31 6'9'' 260 A- C- C- B- A- D
Paul Pierce SF 26 6'7'' 230 A- A- C C+ C B
Antawn Jamison SF 27 6'9'' 234 A B D+ B- C+ C
Elton Brand PF 24 6'8'' 260 A- C- C- B B C
Grant Hill SG 31 6'8'' 238 B+ A- B B- C C
Tier 4 (53-36):
Enticing young players (cut-off: age 25) who have the potential to rise on this list in the future. These guys are either flawed, not fully formed, or haven’t reached their respective peaks yet.
Some thoughts: So many players on this list are interchangeable. A lot of this comes down to position and DC, as players in better situations will tend to look sexier than those who do not benefit from inflated statistics and alike. All of these guys are very intriguing for a variety of different reasons. The player I struggled the most with was Morlende – he’s clearly limited with his “5” three-point shooting, but the rest of his game is so intriguing I would take him over a lot of guys who have a more established pedigree. I continue to think Carmelo is pretty bad.
Amar'e Stoudemire PF 21 6'11'' 248 A- C- C- C+ B B
Josh Howard SF 23 6'7'' 213 B A- C B C+ C
Tyson Chandler C 21 7'1'' 251 B+ D+ C- B+ B- C
Pau Gasol PF 23 7'0'' 261 B+ C C B+ B B
Tayshaun Prince SF 23 6'9'' 218 C+ A- C A- C B
Mehmet Okur C 24 6'11'' 260 B- B+ C- B- B+ B
Eddy Curry C 21 7'0'' 295 B+ C- D B+ C+ B
Udonis Haslem C 23 6'8'' 238 B C C- A- B+ C
Eddie Griffin PF 22 6'11'' 231 C+ C D+ B+ B C
Andrei Kirilenko SG 23 6'9'' 223 B C+ C A- C A
Richard Jefferson SF 23 6'7'' 238 B- A- D+ B C+ B
Predrag Stojakovic SF 26 6'9'' 229 B A C C+ C C
Carmelo Anthony SF 19 6'8'' 235 B B+ C D+ C+ A
Caron Butler SG 23 6'7'' 231 B B+ B- C+ C B
Jermaine O'Neal C 25 6'11'' 247 A- C- F+ A- B B
David West C 23 6'9'' 253 B- C C B+ B A
Paccelis Morlende PG 22 6'2'' 188 C C B- B C B
Ricky Davis SG 24 6'7'' 215 B+ A- C C+ C- B
Joe Johnson SG 22 6'7'' 240 B A- B- C+ C- C
Tier 3 (35-24):
Some thoughts: Not a ton differentiates the worst of these guys from the best players in Tier 5 (is Webber that much better than Brand, for instance?), but most of these guys are phenomenal building blocks who can stabilize a team. Mourning would be much higher, but his contract is so onerous I considered moving him even farther back. Marion is super polarizing. Tough to tell if he’s a top-20 player or top-80 player. Need to see him on a good team. Houston and Big Dog come in almost exactly where they were rated last season.
Chris Webber PF 30 6'10'' 255 A- C C A- A- C
Shawn Marion PF 25 6'7'' 233 B+ C+ C A- B+ C
Marcus Camby PF 29 6'11'' 243 B C- C A A- C
Alonzo Mourning C 33 6'10'' 267 A- C- C A A- D
Rasheed Wallace PF 29 6'11'' 241 B+ C+ C+ A B- B
Jalen Rose SG 30 6'8'' 225 B B+ B+ B C C
Jason Kidd PG 30 6'4'' 215 B- B+ A+ A C C
Mike Bibby PG 25 6'2'' 192 C A- B+ A- D C
Allan Houston SG 32 6'6'' 200 B A+ B- B D+ D
Glenn Robinson SF 30 6'7'' 230 B+ A- C- C+ C D
Manu Ginobili SG 27 6'6'' 214 B A- C+ C+ C B
Ben Wallace C 29 6'9'' 256 B- F D- A+ A B
Tier 2 (23-13)
Really good players who can function as your best player but are ideally suited as # 2’s on the best, best teams. Some of these guys are # 1s but are moved from tier 1 because of positional scarcity or age. Others are younger and project to be come Tier 1 guys soon.
Some thoughts: The Power Forward trio of Zach Randolph, Gerald Wallace and Chris Bosh all look quite interesting. Will any of the three develop into tier 1 guys? Probably not, but their rookie contracts vault them above the Tier 3 players. Ray Ray and KVH are studs who can be viable # 1 options on title teams. Billups and Parker are the next best PG’s in a Point Guard starved league, and both are in their primes. Shaq is a bipolar player but still valuable on the right team. DD and Yao are likely to vault into Tier 1 in the future.
Zach Randolph C 22 6'10'' 261 B+ C+ C- B B+ B
Gerald Wallace PF 21 6'9'' 226 A- C C B+ B+ A
Chris Bosh PF 19 7'0'' 238 B+ C D+ B C+ A
Ray Allen SG 28 6'5'' 208 B A B B+ C- D
Keith Van Horn SF 28 6'10'' 250 B B+ D- B- B B
Chauncey Billups PG 27 6'3'' 211 C A- C A- C- A
Tony Parker PG 21 6'3'' 191 B B C+ B+ D B
Shaquille O'Neal C 31 7'1'' 320 A D- C+ A+ A C
Dimitris Diamantidis SG 23 6'5'' 201 B+ A C+ C C C
Yao Ming C 23 7'6'' 313 B C D B+ B+ A
Tier 1 (12-1)
The best players in the league, period.
Some thoughts: Wouldn’t you love to have any of these guys? Me too, and I have already had 5 of them! I struggled with where to place Wade and LeBron, but I ultimately settled on # 1 and # 2. This may be a bit of a reach, but given the advantages they have that no one else in the league enjoys (ability to develop & milk rebounds at SG/SF while being able to start at PG), and their rookie contracts, I think it is fair. Duncan and Kobe is a toss-up at this point. I’d rather build around the wing in an outside offense. The rest of the guys are absolutely awesome but maybe not transcendent. Dirk has a chance of getting there if his defense and rebounding keep developing this way. All of these guys are awesome!
Vince Carter SF 26 6'7'' 221 B+ A C+ B C C
Jamal Crawford PG 23 6'6'' 190 C+ A B- C D+ A
Steve Nash PG 29 6'3'' 195 C+ A A C D+ C
Allen Iverson SG 28 6'0'' 165 A- A- B A- C- C
Tracy McGrady SF 24 6'8'' 221 A- A C+ A- C+ B
Kevin Garnett PF 27 6'11'' 240 A- C C A+ A- B
Dirk Nowitzki SF 25 7'0'' 264 B+ A- C- B B+ A
Gilbert Arenas PG 21 6'4'' 199 B A C C D+ A
Tim Duncan PF 27 7'0'' 281 A- C B+ A+ A B
Kobe Bryant SG 25 6'7'' 216 A- A B+ A+ C B
Dwyane Wade SG 21 6'4'' 213 B+ C+ B- B- C+ A
LeBron James SF 19 6'10'' 233 A- B- B- C+ C+ A
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